Transit time setting in Route determination

Hi All
I am configuring route determination. We have a transit time of 5 days for one route and if the system encounters a Sunday in between, it considers sunday as holiday and confirms delivery after 6th day. Please note that we have maintained Sunday as holiday in the factory calendar because it should not allow shipping activities or any other activities on Sundays in the plant and shipping point, but transit should be allowed. (I mean, if a truck leaves on Friday, it will not take holiday on Sunday)
Please let me know how I can do that

Hi Monika,
I havent really tried this...but my logic says that you maintain the holidays and working hours by factory calendar under
SPRO -> Logistics Execution -> Shipping -> Basic Shipping Functions > Scheduling > Delivery Scheduling and Transportation Scheduling > Define Scheduling By Shipping Point
Here you would be able to maintain working hours and holidays for your plant/shipping point and Sunday would be a holiday.
In customizing for route determination maintain a new calendar with no holidays. So regardless of which day the truck leaves it doesnt have any holiday.
Here you would need to activate delivery and transportation scheduling based on shipping point.
Regards,
Amit
Edited by: Amit Iyer on Jun 8, 2011 3:56 PM

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Use
Using a route schedule, you can control periodic customer deliveries of a particular shipping point to different ship-to parties (for example, customers or stores) in a certain sequence on a certain defined route. The planning is based on calendar weeks. The period unit is a day. Also, route schedules have a goods issue time.
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Periodic deliveries from a shipping point to stores or customers are planned in advance on the basis of calendar weeks and weekdays, also without reference to particular deliveries.
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Deliveries that are based on sales orders, store orders, stock allocations, stock transfer orders, and deliveries without reference.
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Calendar week / year
When are the goods to be shipped?
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Wholesale trade customers and stores can receive goods at regular intervals. These delivery rhythms have an influence on the workload in the warehouse. To help delivery planning, the route schedule serves as a tool for planning regular, repetitive customer deliveries on a particular route. At the time of planning, potential deliveries that have not yet been created are grouped in the route schedule. When the deliveries are created, the system can automatically determine a route schedule and assign it to the delivery. All deliveries with the same route schedule and the same date can be processed together in the shipping point. All these deliveries leave the shipping point together at a particular time. They are distributed along the same geographical route.
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Prerequisites
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