Unable to reverse subcontracting challan J1IF13
Hi,
I have a scenario where I am trying to reverse a subcontracting challan using J1IF13 Tcode but an error is coming that Assesseble value of material is 0.
The assesseble valu is 0 in subcontracting challan (created using J1if01).However the entry was maintained in J1ID.
Please tell me how to reverse the challan now.
Regards,
hi,
The excise details and assessable value was maintained in J1ID,but I dont know why the value was not picked when creating subcontracting challan using J1IF01.I have already saned the challan with 0 assessable value.
But now I want to reverse the challan using J1IF13,but it is giving an error that the assessable value is 0.
Please tell how to reverse the challan now.
Regards,
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