Reversing process or Subcontract Challan

Hi,
I want to know how to cancel the subcontrcat challn also in status of challna therte are reverse , cancel and delete what is exact diffrenece in all this i want to cancel my challan and also material docuemnt what is use of reverse process also in status there is also posted what is men by if status is posted as if we close it status is comleted .
regards,
zafar

Hi,
The process is like
SUB-CONTRACTING CONDITION RECORDS - FV11 for service tax and cess
SUB-CONTRACTING CONDITION RECORDS - ME21N
RELEASE STRATERGY FOR PURCHASE ORDER - ME28
TRANSFER POSTING OF CHILD PARTS TO SUB-CONTRACTOR - MB1B 541 Mvt Type
SUBCONTRACTING CHALLAN - J1ILN
GOODS RECIEPT - MIGO
RECONCILING SUBCONTRACTING CHALLAN - J1IFQ
INVOICE VERIFICATION - MIRO
For reversal Status C is for Completed. Go to J1IF11 and give Challan No and inside Try to Delete items.
Also try to Reverse the Subcontracting Challan in J1IF13.
Please go through below link is a little Explanatory in your case,
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_erp60_sp/helpdata/en/09/ebf138cdd78a4be10000000a114084/frameset.htm

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RG23A BED                  0.00
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PLA   BED                  0.00                   0.00 BED                    0.00
PLA   SED                  0.00                   0.00 AED                    0.00
PLA   AED                  0.00                   0.00 SED                    0.00
RG23A NCD                  0.00                         NCCD                   0.00
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1) Does the system automatically debits the modvat accounts in case the material is not sent by the subcontractor within 180 days. Do I need to enter the amounts in "Utilization Tab"? In the subcontracting challan the duties are shown as calculated on the posting data tab. In the utilization tab the entry for
If you send exciable material to subcontractor vendor and you not get your material in 180 days then what happen check following
1) why 180 days first because as per Indian law your excise invoice valid for 180 days to take credit after that you can not take credit
2) when 180 days complete ,then it consider as you sale your material to vendor and you have to create sale invoice along with excise invoice and send to vendor ,system will not do automatically.
3) while doing utilization you can not edit sales value or MM value also ,once outgoing excise invoice d yo subcontractor it will come automatically in utilization.
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Error Message in Subcontracting challan

Dear Experts,
Here i am facing problem in processing Subcontracting challan. As per clients organisationsl structure we have two company codes and one plant for each company Code.
As per excise registration, here two Subcontracting series groups are maintained. Number range maintained for the object - J_1i57FC for two series group is same.
The number range is - 0000020001 to 0000029999.
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Dear Experts,
Here i am facing problem in processing Subcontracting challan. As per clients organisationsl structure we have two company codes and one plant for each company Code.
As per excise registration, here two Subcontracting series groups are maintained. Number range maintained for the object - J_1i57FC for two series group is same.
The number range is - 0000020001 to 0000029999.
While day to day processing of subcontracting challan, challans are created with same number for two different series group. For example challan number 20001 is posted, Fully Reconcilled and completed for series group - 44.
But again the challan number 20001 is created for series group 64 as per number range assigned to series group 64.
When i am trying to refer the challan 20001 for different company and series group in Goods receipt, it issuing the message - Challan quantity has been fully reconcilled.
If i will check status of subcontracting challan 20001 for series group 64, it shows status posted only.
Please guide me, whether we cant assign the same number range for two different series groups or there is any mistake in Challan processing or any note is available on the issue.
Thanks in advance

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Hi,
The challan is also widely known as the 57F4 challan, after the law under which it was defined up until the 2000 budget. This law has now been superceded by a new one, 57AC. The challan consists of a header and line items. The header, in addition to T-code is J1IF01 to create subcontracting challan. organizational data, allows you to enter:
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The line items are copied across from the transfer posting when you create the challan. You can also enter additional data for each item
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I have one problem in subcontract process, we have send the material to subcontract vednor but with 180 days we have received partial qty. some qty. is still with vendor more than 180 days, now after 180 adys the remaniaing qty. vendor has given back, now how to reverse the excise duty what is the process for reversing the excise duty, secong is that in J1IF12 when we display the challan, system display the Quantity in excise invoice, GR qty. excise base amount, reverse qty. but system not display the BED, SED, AED amounts in J1IF12 that we can see in J1IFR what setting we ahve to do so that we can see the tax amount in J1IF12 or while creating the challan.
regards,
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Hi Zafar,
.From the SAP Easy Access screen, choose Logistics u2192 Procurement u2192 Subcontracting u2192 Subcontracting Challan u2192 Complete/Reverse/Recredit.
2. Enter the challan number and year.
3. Choose .
4. Select Complete challan.
5. Save the challan.
u2022 If you do expect the subcontractor to return at least some of the materials, you can leave it as it is for the time being. Then, when the materials arrive, you can recredit the excise duty to the account .
Recredit
If a subcontractor returns materials after the return date, you can recredit the excise duty credit that you have reversed.
Recrediting the CENVAT Account
1. From the SAP Easy Access screen, choose Logistics u2192 Procurement u2192 Subcontracting u2192
Subcontracting Challan u2192 Complete/Reverse/Recredit.
2. Enter the challan number and year.
3. Choose.
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u2212 Take recredit for receipts
This leaves the challan open for further goods receipts.
u2212 Take recredits if any and completes challan
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5. Save the challan.
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http://help.sap.com/saphelp_erp60_sp/helpdata/en/b3/cfdf3ae710c60ae10000000a114084/frameset.htm
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Could any of you pls clarify the following process.
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Step1- Created sc po
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Step3- Created sc challan (J1IF01)
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