Understanding the upgrade policy

I came to the forums for the first time in quite awhile to ask a question about a laptop. Have had little time the past months to work in Photoshop. Now I find there out about the new upgrade policy and find different opinions on what the new policy is. (I've also discovered that the forums have a whole new look!)
I have CS5. Is it true that I can wait untll the end of 2012 to upgrade to CS6 to get the upgrade price of 199.00, (or maybe Adobe will change that also?)
I think I understand that I can't skip 6 and wait for 7 to upgrade. I don't really mind as long as I can wait until the year's end because I don't like to be an early upgrader. I might have skipped this upgrade, because this time there seems fewer features of interest, but I have always found some new and useful things each time.
Anyhow, I am thinking of auditing a college class in art this year (an accredited college.) so I think that means I could get a copy of InDesign, CS6, Illustrator and Acrobat. I've wanted Indesign, but as an amature coudn't justifiy it. The price wouldn't be much more than upgrading CS6. (With the cost of the class it will be quite a bit more.) But then I am unable to transfer my license (sell) the bundle later? My current CS5 might or might not be saleable? (not if Adobe can find a way to stop it.). So if I can't work on my PC anymore (age) or die (my heirs) are stuck with useless software?
Would I be able to sell/give my current copy of CS5 if I buy the educational bundle?
It's all so confusing. I will likely get CS6 anyhow, but maybe will stop then and just use what I have which I haven't begun to learn all of anyhow.
Hope I made the quesions clear in my chatter. Especially: do I have until the end of 2012 to decide? And can I not sell my current CS5, or the educational bundle at any time if I join the class and buy the package? Did I miss anything - there is so much new!
Thanks, I guess I'll ask my other question now.

You seem to have a confidence in Adobe that is not supported by their recent record.
John Waller wrote:
…If they did in fact "do a Quark" (take their customers for granted and stop developing)…
Adobe suits have taken their customer for granted for quite some time. Take their disastrous outsourcing of customer and tech support to India, and the contempt with which they treat us there and even in these forums. Their recent record of pushing unripe, buggy software out the door is nothing short of appalling.
John Waller wrote:
…competitors would no doubt swoop with another compelling offering and gladly usurp their customer base…
Who are these "competitors" of whom you speak? I'd love to be "usurped" by them —rather than continue to be screwed by Adobe.
John Waller wrote:
…I'd like to think that Adobe is wiser than that and that the Cloud exit strategy will become more mutually beneficial over time.
Adobe has been innovating since it began so it's deeply embedded in their DNA.
Here you speak of the Adobe of the 1980s, which no longer exists.
During the Bruce Chizen era they degenerated into a third-rate corporate raider, as evidenced by their ill-thought "acquisition" of the Macromedia white elephant which in reality turned out to be the Macromediatization of Adobe into an unresponsive bureaucracy. Just like Macromedia had acquired Fontographer only to let it languish, the macromediatized Adobe bought out Visual Infinity only to kill their unequaled suite of film grain management, GrainSurgery 2. For these reason alone, GrainSurgery 2, I will continue to run Photoshop CS4 until I give up the ghost.
Nobody needs to be reminded of Freehand, part of the Macromedia merger and a casualty abandoned by Adobe.
The innovators are now irrelevant to the Adobe bureaucracy.

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Does the end of the year upgrade policy also include just Photoshop?

I understand CS3 and CS4 are eligible for upgrades to CS6 until the end of the year, but what about upgrading from PS4 to PS6? I normally upgrade to every version, but due to being layed up for 8 months with a knee injury money is extremely tight, so I was planning to wait and upgrade from CS4 to CS6. I heard about the new (now old) upgrade policy so I upgraded to CS5 a few days ago. Now I see that Adobe changed the upgrade policy again. Now I'm wondering if I can return CS5 and wait to upgrade to CS6 later in the year when I have more cash flow.

Hi Coldrake
Yes, all CS3 and CS4 products, whether they're a suite or stand-alone product, like Photoshop, as a one-off arrangement this year only, can wait 'til December 31st 2012 to upgrade directly to CS6... of course, we don't know how much that will cost!
Thank you, pf22, that answers my question perfectly. I'd love to keep PS5, especially with the discount, but as I said, after being off work for so long, money is extremely tight at the moment and will be for the next couple of months.
Of course we also have the "Grace Period" coming up where you could purchase the CS5 upgrade and get CS6 for free
It looks like it's going to be a few months before PS6 will be coming out, so I may be able to swing that, thank you for an excellent suggestion.
Thank you Noel for covering all the bases! I don't have the suite, just Photoshop.
Thanks for both of your replies, they are greatly appreciated.
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The 3G was subsidized and you have to either pay the early termination fee or get within a few months of your contact expiring before you can get another iPhone at the subsidized price. AT&T is not doing anything the other carriers are not doing. I used to be with Verizon Worthless and they did the same thing, except they were ruder about it when you asked for an early upgrade.

Change upgrade policy!

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The upgrade policy is determined by the carrier, not Apple. AT&T treats iPhones as they would any other phone (smartphone, technically) with regards to plans, subsidies, and contracts, and I'm pretty sure the same goes for Verizon.
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The subsidy is an incentive for the customer to buy new phones from the carrier's providers, and the 2-year contract is insurance for the carrier to keep the customer and his/her monthly bill. It's a win-win for the carrier and the cellphone manufacturers/providers.
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Leaving Adobe products because of upgrade policy

My spouse and I spent big bucks for the creative suite CS3 a few years ago and now cannot upgrade and need to buy new to get the latest version. OK we got a few years of use for our bucks but even if we had CS5 we could'nt upgrade! Wow!
And if we buy new now we will need to spend money again in 2 years or have to buy new again after that.
We are double-income-no-children and could afford to spend money on an upgrade. But we don't like feeling taken advantage of. We are not professional photographers, so this is pure discretionary spending.
My spouse already has Nikon Capture (we have the money to buy Nikon) and just downloaded Gimp which should be good enough for a hobby.
We will deal with a little less convenience and quality in the software rather than be insulted by obnoxious corporate behavior.
Inputting in the forum seemed to be the only way to communicate since the web site does not seem to favor user interaction exactly beyond what it wants.
You have lost us as customers.

Your advice could be useful if I wanted to invest in cloud computing but I just made the choice to invest in a PC tower with a graphic card. I don't feel comfortable with paying cloud computing yet. I love it for MOOCs. But it sort of makes you a permanent ($) client and your performance is hostage to what they want to give you in the cloud. The cloud is a technical achievement but it is also marketing.
For your info, I am not kidding about Gimp. Here is the Syllabus of a MOOC class I am enrolled in on Coursera, the median section being about Photoshop... or Gimp as an alternate (https://class.coursera.org/cdt208-001/wiki/view?page=syllabus). All exercises can be done with Gimp. I wanted the upgrade for HDR but Gimp has a plug-in for that. I don't know how well it works though.
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>1. Do we still have the SP Stack upgrades within Ehp 1? Or, has it been revamped completely and there is no more SP upgrades and we only need to do EhP upgrades? In this case, if I have to upgrade from Netweaver 7.01, is my only option upgrading to 7.02?
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>2. Is there a place where I can start to catchup with the whole EhP concept? I would like to know the maintenance life cycle and the impact on our environment.
Yes. http://Service.sap.com/erp-ehp is the place where you can get all the infromation and document.
>3. Are there any specific upgrade guides that will guide me in transitioning from the typical SP upgrade methodology to EhP upgrade methodology. Also, I would like to know how did you transition (learning curve) from someone who had been with typical SP upgrade for a long time and how did you adopt yourself to the new path (like what guides did you use, what links did you follow, etc)
Everything is available on Service marketplace.
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%ASA-4-402116: IPSEC: Received an ESP packet (SPI= 0x1E76EFA6, sequence number= 0x1F0) from x.x.x.x (user= testuser) to y.y.y.y. The decapsulated inner packet doesn't match the negotiated policy in the SA. The packet specifies its destination as z.z.z.z, its source as a.a.a.a, and its protocol as tcp. The SA specifies its local proxy as y.y.y.y/255.255.255.255/udp/42246 and its remote_proxy as x.x.x.x/255.255.255.255/udp/0.
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access-list inside_nat0_outbound extended permit ip any 192.168.3.0 255.255.255.0
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nat (inside) 0 access-list inside_nat0_outbound
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: Saved
ASA Version 8.4(3)
interface Vlan1
nameif inside
security-level 100
ip address 192.168.1.1 255.255.255.0
interface Vlan2
nameif outside
security-level 0
ip address dhcp setroute
boot system disk0:/asa843-k8.bin
object network obj-192.168.3.0
subnet 192.168.3.0 255.255.255.0
object network obj_any
subnet 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0
access-list outside_access_in extended permit icmp any interface outside time-exceeded
access-list outside_access_in extended permit icmp any interface outside echo-reply
access-list outside_access_in extended permit icmp any interface outside unreachable
access-list outside_mpc extended permit ip any interface outside
access-list inside_mpc extended permit ip 192.168.1.0 255.255.255.0 any
access-list testVPN_splitTunnelAcl extended permit ip 192.168.1.0 255.255.255.0 any
access-list inside_nat0_outbound extended permit ip any 192.168.3.0 255.255.255.0
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ip verify reverse-path interface outside
nat (inside,any) source static any any destination static obj-192.168.3.0 obj-192.168.3.0 no-proxy-arp
object network obj-192.168.3.0
nat (outside,outside) dynamic interface
object network obj_any
nat (inside,outside) dynamic interface
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crypto ipsec ikev1 transform-set ESP-AES-256-MD5 esp-aes-256 esp-md5-hmac
crypto ipsec ikev1 transform-set ESP-DES-SHA esp-des esp-sha-hmac
crypto ipsec ikev1 transform-set ESP-3DES-SHA esp-3des esp-sha-hmac
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crypto ipsec ikev1 transform-set ESP-3DES-MD5 esp-3des esp-md5-hmac
crypto ipsec ikev1 transform-set ESP-AES-128-SHA esp-aes esp-sha-hmac
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authentication pre-share
encryption aes
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crypto ikev1 policy 10
authentication pre-share
encryption aes-256
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group 2
lifetime 86400
group-policy testVPN internal
group-policy testVPN attributes
wins-server value 192.168.1.8
dns-server value 192.168.1.8 192.168.1.4
vpn-idle-timeout none
vpn-tunnel-protocol ikev1
split-tunnel-policy tunnelspecified
split-tunnel-network-list value testVPN_splitTunnelAcl
default-domain value test.us
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group-policy testVPNnsl2tp attributes
wins-server value 192.168.1.8
dns-server value 192.168.1.8 192.168.1.4
vpn-idle-timeout none
vpn-tunnel-protocol l2tp-ipsec
group-policy testVPNns internal
group-policy testVPNns attributes
wins-server value 192.168.1.8
dns-server value 192.168.1.8 192.168.1.4
vpn-idle-timeout none
vpn-tunnel-protocol ikev1
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username testuser2 password PASSWORD nt-encrypted privilege 15
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address-pool VPN-Pool-1
default-group-policy testVPNnsl2tp
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authentication ms-chap-v2
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tunnel-group testVPN general-attributes
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default-group-policy testVPN
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tunnel-group testVPNnsl2tp general-attributes
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ikev1 pre-shared-key *****
tunnel-group testVPNnsl2tp ppp-attributes
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Thanks!

Chris,
This is still a bit off the mark. I think I might be confusing the issue by including some of the VPN configuration that I had previously installed and working (e.g., two other VPN tunnel groups with split tunneling on one of them). Let's just remove that stuff from consideration. I actually tested the current configs just to see if they are working since the upgrade. testVPN is working with the split tunneling, but testVPNns (no-split tunneling) does not allow external access. I guess there is a NAT config issue there, too, but not sure what it is, yet. I've not investigated that closely.
I want to solve one problem at a time, though I understand there are some interdependencies.
What I'd like to focus on right now is just the L2TP VPN connection.
From what I've been able to understand from the documentation, what I need are these lines:
crypto ipsec ikev1 transform-set ESP-AES-128-SHA-TRANSP esp-aes esp-sha-hmac
crypto ipsec ikev1 transform-set ESP-AES-128-SHA-TRANSP mode transport
crypto ipsec ikev1 transform-set ESP-3DES-SHA-TRANSP esp-des esp-sha-hmac
crypto ipsec ikev1 transform-set ESP-3DES-SHA-TRANSP mode transport
crypto dynamic-map SYSTEM_DEFAULT_CRYPTO_MAP 10 set ikev1 transform-set ESP-AES-128-SHA-TRANSP ESP-3DES-SHA-TRANSP
crypto map outside_map 65535 ipsec-isakmp dynamic SYSTEM_DEFAULT_CRYPTO_MAP
crypto map outside_map interface outside
crypto ikev1 enable outside
group-policy testVPNnsl2tp internal
group-policy testVPNnsl2tp attributes
wins-server value 192.168.1.8
dns-server value 192.168.1.8 192.168.1.4
vpn-idle-timeout none
vpn-tunnel-protocol l2tp-ipsec
tunnel-group DefaultRAGroup general-attributes
address-pool VPN-Pool-1
default-group-policy testVPNnsl2tp
tunnel-group DefaultRAGroup ipsec-attributes
ikev1 pre-shared-key P74bmqL6rT40bl5
tunnel-group DefaultRAGroup ppp-attributes
authentication ms-chap-v2
crypto ikev1 policy 5
authentication pre-share
encryption aes
hash sha
group 2
lifetime 86400
I still want to assign the IP addresses to VPN clients out of 192.168.3.0/24.
The tricky part is understanding exactly what NAT rules to insert and to avoid that error message I'm getting relatred to the encapsulated packets. I tried to introduce the commands you had, but it's missing stuff that I would need for L2TP/IPSec (e.g., "mode transport"). I also don't think I want "pfs group5". The above config "works" in that I get connected -- all negotiation is done. It's just that packets from the VPN client are not able to go out to the Internet and I'm seeing that encapsulation error messages when I try to send a packet.
Paul

Product update/upgrade policy by Adobe

Adobe is selling software with less validity than a yogurth: I bought the upgrade of Elements suite to version 8 in August this year and One and a half month later this product has expired because Adobe released version 9. Any decent company would provide me with a free upgrade, but this is no Adobe policy: they just care for the money.
So you can judge by yourselfs, here's the case story at Adobe support:
Case #0204475780
Updated
Friday, 5 November 2010 18:42:31 o'clock GMT
Opened
Tuesday, 12 October 2010 14:50:16 o'clock BST
Status
Open - Pending Adobe Response
Product
Photoshop Elements 8
Issue Type
Post Announce Upgrades
Subject
PAU: Update to version 9
Notes & responses
Notes from Customer
Friday, 5 November 2010 18:42:31 o'clock GMT
Just to let you know that I regret your dcision on this matter.
I would just like to let you know that I consider, at least, unethical to sell a piece of software with a validity of a pack of cook
ies (one and a half month!!!).
Even though I now undestand why people use ilegal software, I will not take this way, but I most certainly will stop using your soft
ware and make shure that as many people as possible will know how Adobe treats their clients.
Beste regards
Notes from Customer
Friday, 5 November 2010 18:29:51 o'clock GMT
Just to let you know that I regret your dcision on this matter.
I would just like to let you know that I consider, at least, unethical to sell a piece of software with a validity of a pack of cook
ies (one and a half month!!!).
Even though I now undestand why people use ilegal software, I will not take this way, but I most certainly will stop using your soft
ware and make shure that as many people as possible will know how Adobe treats their clients.
Beste regards
Notes to Customer
Friday, 5 November 2010 17:11:25 o'clock GMT
Hello,
Thank you for contacting Adobe Customer Service.
Please be advised that the purchase you made is out of our eligibility
period for the free upgrade. Unfortunately, there is no way that you can
get a free upgrade for our software.
Thank you,
Anne
Adobe Customer Service
Notes to Customer
Friday, 15 October 2010 22:58:27 o'clock BST
Hello,
Thank you for contacting Adobe Customer Service.
This is in regards to your free upgrade request. I deeply apologize for
the response I have previously sent you. I overlooked the order or
purchased directly from us. Getting back to your order number:
AD001971320PT, purchased last 20/08/2010 please be informed that your
original purchase does not qualify with the post-announce eligibility
period. However as our esteemed valued customer, I will be escalating
your case to our higher department to review your request. Rest assured
this will be taken cared of.
While we are glad to help, you can obtain information on this topic and
others more quickly by searching our knowledgebase at www.ad
obe.com/support/service/.
Thanks for contacting Webmail Support and we appreciate your time spent.
Cathy
Adobe Customer Service
Notes from Customer
Thursday, 14 October 2010 14:19:58 o'clock BST
Good afternoon Cathy,
Thank you very much for your reply
I'm sorry but I don't understand what is the response you are expecting from me. All I can say is:
1- I properly identified the order number from the purchase in your store (#AD001971320PT), therefore, you know that I bought the pr
oduct on 20/08/2010 from your online store.
2- I don't know the release date of the new version. Even less what was the "team determined eligibility period for complimentary up
grades" (I just can find that information on your site).
Therefore, I would like you to tell me if I'm "eligible for complimentary upgrade", or not.
Thank you for your help and best regards,
Fernando
Notes to Customer
Wednesday, 13 October 2010 22:18:55 o'clock BST
Hello,
Thank you for contacting Adobe.
When Adobe releases a new product, the product team determines an
eligibility period for complimentary upgrades. If you purchased your
product after Adobe's public announcement of a new version and within
this eligibility period, you may be eligible for a complimentary
upgrade. This policy applies whether you purchased directly from Adobe
or from an authorized Adobe reseller. If you purchased from a reseller,
you must provide valid proof of purchase. See Valid proof of purchase
(637dc56).
For additional information, please see Complimentary upgrade eligibility
after new product announce (15304). If you believe that you qualify for
a complimentary upgrade, please contact Adobe Support. For contact
information, visit www.adobe.com/support/contact.
Thank you,
Cathy
Adobe Support
Notes from Customer
Tuesday, 12 October 2010 14:50:16 o'clock BST
Order number: AD001971320PT
When visiting your site, I noticed that Adobe has released version 9 of Photoshop Elements + Premiere Elements.
Since I bought the version 8 from you in August, I would like no know if I can upgrade to version 9 for free.

i purchased pse 8 on 8/28/2010
i just called support
and they are sending upgrade to pse 9 free of charge
don't know how far back you could have purchased to
get free upgrade but you may want to try
just thought some one would be interested

Unfair Upgrade policy

Adobe upgrade policy is unfair. I can not upgrade Photoshop CS3 to CS4 because I purchased it in a collection, Design Standard. I have to upgrade the whole set @ $500. I do not use Illustrator or InDesign and do not want to upgrade them. In this economy people are concerned about their spending. Why should consumers have to pay for the things that they do not use? I purchased the collection because I wanted Photoshop and try the other applications. I was unaware that I would have to upgrade all applications to remain current. I am stretching my budget by trying to spend $200 (actually $199 - common deceptive sales tactic) on upgrading to Photoshop CS4.
In these tough economic times Adobe should be making a difference NOT a killing.
Thanks for listening.

I'm not sure if you can call $1,700 a steep discount if you add up individual applications they come to $2,000. That's $100.00 per application ($600 vs $700). If I would have purchased Photoshop as a point purchase it would save me $300.00 per upgrade for things that I do not use.
Yes,It WAS hard to make my initial investment in Adobe software. Maybe your business isn't affected like mine is but $300 to upgrade all the applications (that I do not use) takes food from my family's mouth.
I understand that I am just venting to users and that Adobe doesn't care about me or my business. Adobe has closed my case, so now I have to fight them just to get my $199 back from my credit card for the upgrade that I can not use.
No compassion? Try walking in my shoes.

Verizon Upgrade Policy Change

Just thought you guys may be interested in the latest development in Verizon's move to make everyone angry. Apparently they plan on ditching annual upgrades and no longer giving the additional NE2 discount for those eligible on contracts started after Jan 16th. They better ramp up their OS update testing otherwise a lot of people aren't going to be happy with keeping a phone for 2 years with slow updates.
http://www.androidcentral.com/verizon-changing-its-upgrade-policy-youll-have-wait-20-months-new-phone
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PJNC284 wrote:
Just thought you guys may be interested in the latest development in Verizon's move to make everyone angry. Apparently they plan on ditching annual upgrades and no longer giving the additional NE2 discount for those eligible on contracts started after Jan 16th. They better ramp up their OS update testing otherwise a lot of people aren't going to be happy with keeping a phone for 2 years with slow updates.
http://www.androidcentral.com/verizon-changing-its-upgrade-policy-youll-have-wait-20-months-new-phone
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[Edited to comply with Terms of Service]
Let me go ahead and post the text from that image, which is not a ToS violation:
2011 Upgrade Policy:
Overview
Verizon Wireless is simplifying the equipment upgrade policy for customers. Beginning January 16th, 2011, customers will be eligible for promotional pricing as well as special offers that we make available. Changes include retirement of the following programs:
- Annual Upgrade: Customers on 2-yr contracts will no longer be able to upgrade in months 13-20 of their 24 month contract as a standard policy.
- New Every Two (NE2): Customers will no longer be enrolled in NE2 at the time of activation/upgrade after January 16th.
Remember, both of these programs are for customers on 2-year contracts only. So customers on 1-year contracts are not impacted by these changes.
This training will help you understand the changes and provide you helpful information when explaining them to our customers.
Please feel free to edit your original post if you want to copy/paste the above, PJ.

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