Urgent: Datatype change, cannot refresh business area

First time I've pulled the Urgent thing but I have a problem. We had a datatype change for an ID field and I cannot refresh the associated business area because it get the following error message after it analyses the differences. There are several areas where this field is referenced, but it is only showing me one. When I try to refresh I get the following:
"This item is used elsewhere, its datatype cannot be changed".
The item is used in several joins within this business area. If they are all changed when the business area refreshes, things should work fine. Any thoughts?

So in the database you changed the datatype for this ID field. This ID field I assume is a foreign key in other database tables. Where those tables updated also to the new datatype?

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