URGENT: u410 incorrect bios version provided at Lenovo website

The u410 Ultrabook currently sold by Lenovo is being shipped with Bios version 65CN15WW.
Online, Lenovo provides an older version 65CN13WW.
Bios version 65CN15WW is corrupt, network problems with the wireless adapter have been reported. Also, Windows clean install on models with this bios are not possible, especially if the original partitioning table has been changed and the RAID has been deleted.
If one disables UEFI in bios, the bios can no longer be accessed.
Flashing the Bios witn version 65CN13WW is not possible. Because 65CN13WW is an older version of the bios, all attempts to flash the bios result in a message "invalid bios" and the flash is not applied.
THIS NEEDS TO BE FIXED ASAP. The different forums (English, Deutsch, Espanol) are littered with messages where users are not able to install Windows 7 and are not able to upgrade to Windows 8 because of this corrupt bios.

just to clear up one of the points made in this thread; it is not uncommon, (other manufacturers included), for a system to be delivered with a different bios version to that which is available for download.
This has been stated on previous occasions by Lenovo employees; an example.
Mark_Lenovo wrote:
sometimes we introduce newer versions into manufacturing to support an update to something like the chipset or later version of processor introduced during product life. Since the particular change doesn't apply (doesn't benefit) the field population, it may not be immediately placed on the support site for download. Development may wait for a later iteration that includes updates that are relevant (fixes) and then release that as a cumulative update.
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Satellite 1410-604 - BIOS update Incorrect BIOS update in the web?

Hi there again!
Now with a new and weird matter.
We all know that old say... "If it is not break, don't fix it". And if you put it into more informatic terms, "specially if it is a BIOS".
Yes, we all know that the BIOS is something quite dellitate to handle. For some reason we normally feel like if we were handling something like nitro-glycerine, or some radioactive product. And this is because we all know what is being put in risk in that moment: our (or sometimes others) computer, the full system could end as dead as some pieces of metal, plastic, and wires.
Well. I passed through all of that more than ten times in my life, and only once it went wrong. But since that old motherboard was already dead, It was not important. But I allways was EXTREMELY care. I allways cross checked everything before doing anything, allways got a backup and a way to restore that backup... and allways did this in COMPAQ systems, that were prepared that way. Updating a BIOS was just about preparing a disk, turn on the PC with the disk in the diskette drive, and wait. And if you didn't like the results, you simply click "return to previus BIOS" and that was it... very nice. And easy.
Few days ago, a friend brought me a Toshiba Satellite 1410-604 to solve some issues that were driving him crazy. After removing an expired Norton Internet Security, install avast and scan, I found more than one hundred files infected with a wide variety of virus, malware, trojans, and whatever you could imagine. Avast removed them all, but the remains of the operating system was so unstable that we decide to format and install from scratch.
I asked for the restoration disks, that obviously he don't have because they were lost in one of his movings. After we got the confirmation from Toshiba reps that there are no recovery disk available for this model, because it is too old, we decided to install from scratch like any other normal PC, and resigned to loose some of the utilities that come with that CDs and that are not available for download in the website.
I downloaded all of the software available for this model, including two BIOS updates. (Actually only one update, but in two versions: Windows and Traditional), and prepared a CD with all the drivers and programs just like if it were a brand new system install. And everything went very well, no problems at all. Until we got to the Wireless LAN card, but that is another issue that is already solved (the mini PCI card for the WLAN does not support WEP or WAP encription, and it is not possible to connect to any wireless LAN encripted).
At this point, and when I started configuring and enabling PCMCIA devices, and USB devices (this computer only supports USB 1.1 not 2.0) I discovered this text in the Toshiba Website:
"This Bios Update adds increased functionality to your system.
(BIOS is an acronym for Basic Input and Output System. This program is stored in a Read-Only Memory chip on the motherboard.
When the computer powers up, the BIOS is launched to perform various start-up functions.)
For detailed update information please refer to Toshiba BIOS-Update Information"
(you can find this here:
[http://eu.computers.toshiba-europe.com/innovation/download_drivers_bios.jsp?service=EU] you have to look for:
Archive
Satellite
Satellite 14xx
Satellite 1410-604
PS141E
Quite specific. Isn't it?)
According to the information in that same website, the BIOS available fits the following models:
"Satellite 2410-414, Satellite 1410, Satellite 1410-654S, Satellite 1410-814, Satellite 2410-303, Satellite 2410-304S, Satellite 1410-354, Satellite 2410-601, Satellite 1410-401, {color:#ff0000}*Satellite 1410-604*{color}, Satellite 2410-404, Satellite 1410-301, Satellite 1410-304, Satellite 2410-S403, Satellite Pro 2100, Satellite 1410-S203, Satellite 2410-304, Satellite 1410-554, Satellite 1410-S102, Satellite 1410-354E, Satellite 2410-703, Satellite 1410-303, Satellite 2410-S203, Satellite 1410-801, Satellite 2410-603, Satellite 1410-902, Satellite 1410-313, Satellite 1410-802, Satellite 1410-714, Satellite 2410-354, Satellite 2410-514, Satellite 1410-614, Satellite 1410-704, Satellite 2410-515, Satellite 2410-504, Satellite 2410-702, Satellite 1410-S103"
Yes... it's there!
Now, when you go to the "Toshiba BIOS-Update Information", you get:
"FAQ Ref.: TRO0000000b07
A BIOS update is a {color:#ff0000}*relatively simple operation and can be carried out by most competent computer users*{color}. All BIOS upgrades can be obtained from "BIOS Update" Download Section click here..
Note: The BIOS files are machine specific so the correct BIOS for your machine must be used."
Please note that Toshiba does not disencourage the handling of BIOS, on the contrary: they even encourage people to do so. This is not necessary bad, but at the same time they encourage people to 'play around' with such a delicate matter, at the end of that same page, in little letters they say:
"Toshiba provides this information "as is" {color:#ff0000}*without warranty of any kind*{color}, either expressed or implied, including, but not limited to, the implied warranties of merchantability or fitness for a particular purpose. Toshiba shall not be responsible for the topicality, correctness, completeness or quality of the information provided. {color:#ff0000}*Toshiba is not liable for any damage caused by the use of any information provided, including information that is incomplete or incorrect*{color}."
This should trigger yellow alarms in our minds.
+"Human error is inherent to humans, and it is not possible to erradicate. It will allways appear, sooner or later" (Prof. James Reason).+
And finally I made the mistake. Even though I read that warning, I remembered all those successfull BIOS update with COMPAQ, and relied in Toshiba. That update was available there, and Toshiba was telling me that it was for this computer. Great!
So finally I unplugged all devices (USB), removed the PCMCIA (WLAN),plugged the battery charger to avoid any possible battery problem, restarted windows, and then from within windows I started the updater (windows version, as recommended by Toshiba). Everithing looked fine, nothing different of what I used to see on those old COMPAQs.
As warned by the updating program, the system was going to reboot. And actually it did so.
Windows closed quite normally (a bit quicker than normal, but without errors, and since there were no other programs than the essentials -even the antivirus was not running-), the computer switched of, all lights off (normal), and then it switched on again...
{color:#0000ff}*BEEEEEEEEEEEEP... BEEEP... BEEEEP...*{color}
OMG! I never espected something THAT bad. 3-1-1!
And now... What a 3-1-1 stands for here? Award BIOS would mean no video card or deffective video card, but it is not true, since it was working up to 20 seconds ago. It must be the BIOS.
It never came again to life. It is still beeping 3-1-1.
But now comes the investigation of the human-factors involved in this accident.
I found I commited the following failures:
*(1)* To rely in the manufacturer, even though they WROTE their information could be wrong or incomplete. (BAD if I were a QA&QC inspector).
*(2)* I didn't cross checked deeply enough (until it was already too late).
*(3)* I didn't looked previously for the way to make a backup of the BIOS, in order to restore should anything go wrong.
*(4)* Let Toshiba lead me to a path I didn't want to walk, just because of their offer of "increased functionality".
*(5)* Beleave in Toshiba when they said "relatively simple operation and can be carried out by most competent computer users"... they never said it is failproof.
Then I started the most interesting part of the investigation.
{color:#0000ff}*"What went wrong?"*{color}
Obviously, the BIOS update failed somehow, somewhere. And I wanted to know what and where.
First thing I discovered was that there are another search engine in Toshiba called "askiris" ([http://askiris.toshiba.com]) and I looked there in order to see if for any chance I could get the old 1.20 BIOS version that was installed originally in that machine.
And I found something... VERY interesting:
bq. {color:#800080}*From: * \\ {color}{color:#800080}* ACPI Flash BIOS version 1.10 for Satellite 1410/1415/2410* \\ {color}{color:#800080}* bios for these models. TAIS. Downloads. DL. 105481 289838 289838 ACPI Flash BIOS version 1.10 for Satellite 1410/1415/2410. 2002-10-04. 105589...* \\ {color}{color:#800080}* Published 10/4/02* \\ {color}{color:#800080}* From: * \\ {color}{color:#800080}* ACPI Flash BIOS version 1.40 for Satellite 1410/1415/2410/2415* \\ {color}{color:#800080}* FDD Version 1.30 TAIS. Downloads. DL. 105481 357972 357972 ACPI Flash BIOS version 1.40 for Satellite 1410/1415/2410/2415. 2003-01-31. 105589 PUB...* \\ {color}{color:#800080}* Published 1/31/03 | Rating:* \\ {color}{color:#800080}* From: * \\ {color}{color:#800080}* ACPI Flash BIOS version 1.20 for Satellite 1410/2410* \\ {color}{color:#800080}* error message during BIOS TAIS. Downloads. DL. 105481 305240 305240 ACPI Flash BIOS version 1.20 for Satellite 1410/2410. 2002-11-01. 105589 PUB...* \\ {color}{color:#800080}* Published 11/1/02 | Rating:* \\ {color}{color:#800080}* From: * \\ {color}{color:#800080}* ACPI Flash BIOS version 1.30 for Satellite 1410/1415/2410* \\ {color}{color:#800080}* 1) Changed the content TAIS. Downloads. DL. 105481 330963 330963 ACPI Flash BIOS version 1.30 for Satellite 1410/1415/2410. 2003-01-03. 105589...* \\ {color}{color:#800080}* Published 1/3/03 | Rating:* {color}
Those are: V110, V140, V120 and V130 for series 1410/15 and 2410.
GOOD! Or not?
Let's take a look:
First thing I did was download everything all four files.
Then I took the same version that made the crash: 1.40
Than I uncompressed the file, and I found:
06/05/2009 00:17 <DIR> .
06/05/2009 00:17 <DIR> ..
31/01/2003 08:38 1,605,632 11410v14.iso
31/01/2003 08:38 511,764 1370D14.EXE
{color:#ff0000}*08/01/2003 17:03 724,480 2410a9v140.exe*{color}
09/01/2003 09:32 250,663 biofca9t.com
08/10/2002 05:26 30,697 chgbiosa.exe
31/01/2003 08:36 1,087 instinfo.bat
13/05/2002 15:25 378,175 launcher.exe
31/01/2003 08:36 433 launcher.ini
06/05/2009 00:17 0 list.txt
31/01/2003 08:36 14,768 readme.com
*{color:#ff0000}31/01/2003 08:36 12,513 readme.txt{color}*
11 archivos 3,530,212 bytes
3 dirs 9,404,600,320 bytes libres
And I got my first surprise here: There is a {color:#ff0000}*README.TXT*{color} that was not present in the file I downloaded previously from the drivers repository.
So I went to the readme.txt and I found this:
"README.TXT 01-31-2003 CDC
Flash BIOS version 1.40 for Satellite 1410
This BIOS is applicable to the following models:
Satellite 1410-S105
Satellite 1410-S106
Satellite 1410-S173
Satellite 1410-S174
Satellite 1410-S175
Satellite 1410-S176
Satellite 1415-S105
Satellite 1415-S106
Satellite 1415-S115
Satellite 1415-S173
Satellite 1415-S174
Satellite 1415-S175
Satellite 1415-S176
Satellite 2410-S203
Satellite 2410-S204"
Please note that the model 1410-604 is *NOT* listed.
I thought "well, it must be another archive..."
But then I realized of a name that sounds familiar, it was there, in the directory where I uncompressed this 1.40 file, and the name is:
{color:#0000ff}*2410A9V140.EXE*{color}
So I took the other file, the BIOS_Win update, and I discovered that the file name is:
*{color:#0000ff}2410A9V140.EXE{color}* (Ups!)
So I uncompressed it again, to find:
El volumen de la unidad D no tiene etiqueta.
El n£mero de serie del volumen es: 8838-E175
Directorio de D:\Shared\diskette\2410A9v140
06/05/2009 00:43 <DIR> .
06/05/2009 00:43 <DIR> ..
*{color:#0000ff}09/01/2003 09:32 _250,663_ BIOFCA9T.COM{color}*
17/07/2002 03:38 35 biosupd2.ini
13/07/2001 13:22 6,277 chgbios2.vxd
*{color:#0000ff}08/10/2002 04:26 _30,697 _CHGBIOSA.EXE{color}*
09/11/2001 09:14 134 clean2.reg
17/07/2002 03:35 342,064 install2.exe
16/07/2002 06:55 241,664 nchgbios2.exe
18/08/2001 11:41 3,435 nchgbios2.sys
23/10/2001 18:55 11,476 nchgbios2NT.sys
26/08/2001 09:00 49,152 nchgbios2svc.exe
13/07/2001 17:05 49,152 tbdecode.dll
14/03/2002 06:42 49,152 TCHGBIOSInfo.dll
21/06/2002 11:25 1,796 tosclean2.bat
09/11/2001 12:01 967 tosclean2.pif
21/06/2002 11:34 1,841 toscleanAUTO2.bat
21/06/2002 11:44 1,796 toscleanSMS2.bat
21/06/2002 08:51 2,038 tosntclean2.bat
21/06/2002 08:51 2,084 tosntcleanAUTO2.bat
21/06/2002 08:52 2,038 tosntcleanSMS2.bat
20 archivos 1,046,461 bytes
2 dirs 9,402,793,984 bytes libres
No readme file...
Then another question arised in my mind: What about the other 1.40 file? What does the other 2410A9V140.EXE have inside?
This:
El volumen de la unidad D no tiene etiqueta.
El n£mero de serie del volumen es: 8838-E175
Directorio de D:\Shared\diskette\comparacion_toshiba\askiris\241 0a9v140
06/05/2009 00:46 <DIR> .
06/05/2009 00:46 <DIR> ..
*{color:#0000ff}09/01/2003 09:32 _250,663 _BIOFCA9T.COM{color}*
17/07/2002 03:38 35 biosupd2.ini
13/07/2001 13:22 6,277 chgbios2.vxd
*{color:#0000ff}08/10/2002 04:26 _30,697 _CHGBIOSA.EXE{color}*
09/11/2001 09:14 134 clean2.reg
17/07/2002 03:35 342,064 install2.exe
16/07/2002 06:55 241,664 nchgbios2.exe
18/08/2001 11:41 3,435 nchgbios2.sys
23/10/2001 18:55 11,476 nchgbios2NT.sys
26/08/2001 09:00 49,152 nchgbios2svc.exe
13/07/2001 17:05 49,152 tbdecode.dll
14/03/2002 06:42 49,152 TCHGBIOSInfo.dll
21/06/2002 11:25 1,796 tosclean2.bat
09/11/2001 12:01 967 tosclean2.pif
21/06/2002 11:34 1,841 toscleanAUTO2.bat
21/06/2002 11:44 1,796 toscleanSMS2.bat
21/06/2002 08:51 2,038 tosntclean2.bat
21/06/2002 08:51 2,084 tosntcleanAUTO2.bat
21/06/2002 08:52 2,038 tosntcleanSMS2.bat
20 archivos 1,046,461 bytes
2 dirs 9,402,781,696 bytes libres
*{color:#ff0000}They both have 20 files, and 1,046,461 bytes. I asumed they are both the SAME file{color}*.
And the readme file does not list the model 1410-604 in its readme file, therefore I cannot explain this except as a mistake from Toshiba. *{color:#ff0000}They put an incorrect BIOS in their website, and suggested the update, and somehow leaded to this kind of errors.{color}*
(Except in the case that one of those models is a different name of the 1410-604 model, and if it is the case... now I don't know why this BIOS do not work with this computer).
The worst part is that neither of those other files (V1.10, 1.20 and 1.30) lists the 1410-604, therefore there seems no possible workaround for this problem. I need an original v1.20 for this CMOS, and Toshiba seems not to have it. They offered me to solve the problem, by leaving the notebook at an ASP, and paying only 95€ for the work and about 280€ for a motherboard replacement, I will get it solved. But they offer no warranty of their possibilities because is a model 'too old' and 'discontinued' and with 'no support'...
In other words, they said "don't bother with this, just go out there and buy a new one" (something absolutely out of my scope in this crisis-time) :P
Thank you for reading soooo far.
Now what I need is to get any ideas of a workaround for this, my ideas are:
(1) This CMOS has a boot-part that still works (it allows a roll-back if you have the appropriate file). So I need a good BIOS to burn into the CMOS, from the VERY SAME model (a BIOS backup) but the backup must be adequate for the burning program (CHGBIOSA.COM).
(2) It is still possible that the BIOS could be OK but the data on the CMOS got somehow corrupted. If so, clearing the CMOS could solve de problem. But I was not able to find a clear cmos button from outside, and after disasembling I took of the battery, with no good results. I have to try leaving the MOBO without battery for longer period (I left it about 20 seconds) just in case 20 seconds don't allow all the capacitors to fully go to zero values. I have not much hope in this point.
(3) Try to get a REAL good update from Toshiba. I contacted several times technical support, and I was able to verify they are only phone-operators, with a script in front of them, and when the problem goes-out-of-scope they fall always in the same answer: "you have to go to an ASP". I still have a low hope to find someone who really knows a bit, and could enlighten with a good BIOS to put in this disks.
(4) As far as I could find, this BIOS is not from any known BIOS-maker. It seems it has been developed by Toshiba (own brand), therefore the Crisis Recovery Disk from Phoenix will not be of any help here. As well as any other BIOS recovery tool not designed for Toshiba's BIOS. But I'm open to any ideas, that could be tested more or less safely. (Remember that the 'BIOS-BOOT-PART' feature is still working, I don't want to loose this only possibility of redemption).
Wwwaaaaoooowww... what a long-post falks! Sorry for that!
Forgive me, but I wanted to be really clear.
Should anyone give some hints or advice, will be greatly appreciated.
Please don't say what I shouldn't do... I already know that. I already researched and already found my mistakes, in order not to repeat them. Now I need to move on, to advance, and to try to solve this, or at least learn how to solve similar things. As much as possible.
Thank you again, in advance, and sorry again.
FenixDigital
Message was edited by: Fenix_D
Changed subject to beter reflect what is the matter about (apparently erroneous BIOS file in Toshiba download center).

Well. 
 
It's not dead, certainly. 
 
The steps that I put in my procedure were: 
 
--> There are two memory sims, that I am going to identify as M1 and M2 
--> There are two memory banks, that I am going to identify as A and B 
 
Next step in order to identify if there are some module or bank that is not working properly are: 
 
The modules were installed as: 
 
M1 --> A 
M2 --> B 
 
1--> Boot without any memory chip. 
 
<blockquote>
A--> X 
B--> X 
</blockquote>
 
2--> Boot with ONE module 
 
<blockquote>
A-->M1 
B-->X 
</blockquote>
 
3--> Boot with the OTHER module 
 
<blockquote>
A--> X 
B--> M2 
</blockquote>
 
4--> Boot with BOTH modules swapped: 
 
<blockquote>
A--> M2 
B--> M1 
</blockquote>
 
5--> Boot with ONE module swapped: 
 
<blockquote>
A--> M2 
B--> X 
</blockquote>
 
6--> Boot with the OTHER module swapped: 
 
<blockquote>
A--> X 
B--> M1 
</blockquote>
 
At this point I got a great difference. It booted, finally. But in order to make a diagnostic, I have to complete the full test, and the results were: 
 
1--> Boot without any memory chip. 
 
A--> X 
B--> X 
 
NOT BOOTING Actually the computer not even tries to read the disk. Only the power led turns on, but even prior to press the 'on/off' button. I think this indicates 'no memory installed'. I would have expected a post failure beeps, but there were no beeps at all. 
 
2--> Boot with ONE module 
 
A-->M1 
B-->X 
 
BOOTED NORMALLY Well. This obviously means that the 3-1-1 beep code means memory error, or one bank failing of two installed. Now I didn't know if the problem was the module, or the bank B. 
 
3--> Boot with the OTHER module 
 
A--> X 
B--> M2 
 
NOT BOOTING Just like the condition in 1. Like no memory installed, therefore there are two possibilities: The bank B is not working, or the memory module M2 is not working. 
 
4--> Boot with BOTH modules swapped: 
 
A--> M2 
B--> M1 
 
NOT BOOTING Just like previous to test condition. Beep code 3-1-1, no boot at all. 
 
5--> Boot with ONE module swapped: 
 
A--> M2 
B--> X 
 
NOT BOOTING This was the important test, because it finally let me determine that the problem is at the module 2 (M2) not at the bank B. But still there could be a failure IN THE BANK B and IN THE MEMORY MODULE 2. Have to do the other test. 
 
6--> Boot with the OTHER module swapped: 
 
A--> X 
B--> M1 
 
BOOTING NORMALLY This really confirmed there is nothing wrong with ANY bank, but one of the modules is not working, actually is not being even detected. This is quite weird, because this computer was working perfectly with those two modules, and in the moment of the BIOS upgrade it seems to fail... How come? 
 
Something weird happened here. I don't know what, but something ruined one memory module (fortunately only one), what I would like to know now is what happened. But at least I have the machine running, with very low memory, but running. 
 
What I am thinking now is what about this BIOS upgrade makes the motherboard not to recognize one of the modules for some reason? 
 
<img class="jive-emoticon" src="images/emoticons/happy.gif" border="0" alt=":)" /> 
 
I will continue my research, but certainly the memory made the difference. 
 
I am not sure why I didn't discover this before, I think I didn't perform this test before, for two reasons: 
 
(1) I tried to boot with no memory, and this was impossible, so I assumed that the problem was not at the memory. 
 
(2) When I heard the beep code (3-1-1), somewhere I read it was a video problem, and I asume most probably it was a video problem (since no video at all was being displayed) but I should have take into consideration that Phoenix BIOS also means with the same 3-1-1 a DMA problem (memory problem). 
 
Okis... It's a pitty having to wait so much between a post and it's approval. I posted my answer two days ago, and since it didn't appear, I believe It didn't upload, so I replied again, and also didn't appeared... until now. It is obvious that a moderator approval is required. That's why I have to wait 24 hours or more to read my post. This slows this forum effectiveness. 
 
Thank you very much for your help. I'll keep you informed. Until we get to a final diagnosis and solution.

URGENT HELP NEEDED (Bios Settings Failed)

Hey Guys,
I am having problems with my MSI Board, and don't know what to do. I am very much a noob to BIOS/and modding so I apologize in advance. You guys helped me a few months ago getting everything up and running and all was great for months. Then last night I walked away from my PC for a while and when i came back a starting screen was on saying my OC Settings Failed to load, i tried other versions I saved and they all failed as well. I ended up loading failsafe options, and got the "double start" where the computer turns on, then instantly shuts off, then turns on again. This allowed me to load windows 7, which then started to "install updates". So i think while i was away Windows automatically updated and rebooted... but would that effect my BIOS settings?
As I said, I had my system running perfect for months no errors or crashes at all based on the Bios setting you guys help me with in this thread: https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=147854.0
However, last week I removed the heat sink and installed this cooler: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835181010&nm_mc=OTC-Froogle&cm_mmc=OTC-Froogle-_-Water+Cooling-_-Corsair-_-35181010
All I did was unhook everything from the MB, install the cooler, and then hook everything back up to the MB. The only thing I may have done wrong is not connect the SATA devices (my HDs and ROMS) back in the spots they were in originally. However after I installed the cooler, they system booted right up, and I haven’t had any problems with my system for the past two weeks. I also should note I didnt make any BIOS changes either after I installed the cooler. So I don’t know if I should have done something there. Yet, like I said the system has been fine for the past two weeks, no crashes or errors... it wasn’t until last night after Windows auto updated that this has begun.
The reason I need "URGENT HELP" is because of course I just a new job with deadlines due and so much video editing work I need to do. I would be fine leaving it on failsafe settings, and forgetting the OC setting all together if I new that would make the system stable. But considering its still doing the "double start" even in failsafe mode, im afraid if i start working my system will crash.
So I am begging anybody for any advice or help they could provide. I will provide my system info below. If anybody can guide me as to what settings I should set in BIOS i would appreciate it. Or perhaps there’s a BIOS update that I should use now that I have a cooler and not a heat sink? If you need any more information from me, just ask. I will be monitoring this thread all day, as I desperately need help.
MY SYSTEM:
Intel 980X chip running Win 7 64bit (with MSI BigBang xPower MB installed in my old Dell XPS 730X)
(1) SATA II WD 3gb Hard Drive @ 1.5TB
(2) OCZ SATA II SSD drives @120GB: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820227543
(2) Hitachi 6gb SATA III drives @2TB: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822145473
3 DVD/CD/BLUERAY DRIVES:
1 SATA DVD DRIVE
1 SATA BlueRay Drive
1 SATA CD Drive
(So 8 SATA Devices Total)
24GIGs of this ram: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820145321
1 NVida Geforce GTX 470
1 Soundblaster X-Fi Titanum Card
New Addition Water Cooler: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835181010&nm_mc=OTC-Froogle&cm_mmc=OTC-Froogle-_-Water+Cooling-_-Corsair-_-35181010

PROBLEM: My OC BIOS setting wont load. Even on failsafe i get the "double start". I want to get back to my OC (stable) settings.
UPDATE: Since I posted somebody messaged me mentioned I should have "reset the CMOS" after I installed the new cooler. So I did that, and now they system starts fine without the "double start". I am able to load one of my saved OC settings now as well (but any others causes a failure).
NEW QUESTIONS:
1. Since I reset the CMOS and now the system is starting fine on my last OC settings, is it safe to assume the sytem is stable for now?
2. I never made any power changes or BIOS changes after I installed the new cooler. Should I have?
3. After I reset the CMOS was I soupposed to reinstall the drivers from the MSI disk again? I did not, and the system seems to be fine, but I thought I was soupposed to do that after a CMOS reset.
4. Is there a new BIOS version for my setup that may be better now? Im currently on v1.5
Here is a screenshot from CPUZ of the system information currently. This is with it booting normally after my CMOS reboot. I just figured id post it incase it helps with any of my questions. Thanks so much for helping guys!

"verify error" when attempting to flash to bios version 67 on U330

I cannot update my bios version from 54 to 67 on my U330. After downloading the file 0FCN67WW.exe, right-clicking and selecting "run as administrator," it runs for about 3 seconds before a dialog box appears with the error "Verify Error." After that, in order to reboot my machine, it is necessary to unplug and remove the battery to force a shutdown. Does anyone know how to fix this?

Disable any malware protection before.
Flash BIOS update - Flash from Operating System version
for Ideapad Y730, Y330, U330
Version 0FCN67WW
Installation README
This package updates the basic input/output system (BIOS) on
Ideapad Y730, Y330, U330.
BIOS is programming that controls low-level hardware operations,including interactions with diskette drives, hard drives, and thekeyboard. The BIOS is stored on a chip. Your computer uses flashBIOS, which can be updated through a program on a flash disketteso that you do not have to replace the BIOS chip to update theBIOS.
Note: Make note of any settings you have changed in the BIOSConfiguration Utility. These settings may have to be re-enteredafter updating the BIOS.
Attention: Do not under any circumstance power off or restart the system during the Flash update procedure. Doing so will critically damage your system.
Print this file so that you can refer to it during the installation.
Downloading the package
=======================
1. Click the file link to download the file from the web page.
2. When prompted, select a drive and directory in which to save the downloaded file.
Installing the package in Windows 7
======================
1. Locate the file 0FCN67W.exe you just downloaded.
2. Right click the 0FCN67W.exe icon, select 'Run as administrator'.
If the User Access Control (UAC) dialog box pops up, select 'Allow'.
3. A Window will pop up and the message "Are you sure you want to flash BIOS?" will be displayed.
4. Press Enter fo start flashing. During the process, you are advised not to turn off the computer.
5. When the update finishes, it will automatically restart the computer so that the changes will take effect.
Installing the package in Windows Vista
======================
1. Locate the file 0FCN67W.exe you just downloaded.
2. Right click the 0FCN67W.exe icon, select 'Run as administrator'.
If the User Access Control (UAC) dialog box pops up, select 'Allow'.
3. A Window will pop up and the message "Are you sure you want to flash BIOS?" will be displayed.
4. Press Enter fo start flashing. During the process, you are advised not to turn off the computer.
5. When the update finishes, it will automatically restart the computer so that the changes will take effect.
Installing the package in Windows XP
======================
1. Locate the file 0FCN67W.exe you just downloaded.
2. Double-click the 0FCN67W.exe icon.
3. A Window will pop up and the message "Are you sure you want to flash BIOS?" will be displayed.
4. Press Enter fo start flashing. During the process, you are advised not to turn off the computer.
5. When the update finishes, it will automatically restart the computer so that the changes will take effect.
Summary of changes
==================
General Information:
OFCN67WW:
- Update Intel UMA VGA driver to support Windows 7
- Support VT feature
OFCN54WW:
- Power up sound can be muted for quite environments
- Add an option on BIOS menu,
press F2 to enter BIOS -> Advanced -> Boot Logo Volume: 0 (Closed Volume),1(Middle Volume) or 2(Large Volume).
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Qosmio X300-14Y- How can I find the old BIOS version 1.90?

Hi,
First of all; I am so sorry for my bad english knowledge..
Im from Turkey.
I use x300 14 y since one week. factory bios version for vista 32 bit 1.90. But I upgraded to 2.10.
How can I find old bios 1.90 setup file again. ? Please help.......

You are right. On Toshiba download page you will not be able to find older BIOS version.
When the new BIOS update is realised the old one will not be available for download.
If you need older version contact nearest authorized service provider.
They must have it. Be cool and talk with them. Maybe they can send it to you per mail.

Is it possible to update the bios on (compaq 686c3 - bios version, date: 4/18/2001).??

I have a old pentium 3 processor with Intel 810 chipset (FW82810E) motherboard. This is a compaq motherboard. The builtin ps/2 ports for keyboard and mouse on the Motherboard have gone bad. I am trying to install windows xp using usb pen drive. But there is not an option for enabling the USB boot in the BIOS. When I switch on the machine the COMPAQ logo will appear. The BIOS Shown here is "compaq computer corporation setup utility" . BIOS Version\Date: Compaq 686C3\4\18\2001.
Please help me for upgrading the BIOS for adding the USB boot option.

Please provide the full model name and/or product number of the HP/Compaq computer in question. Without this information there is little we can do to help you resolve your issue.
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Where can I find an old BIOS version for X200

Hi,
I am running windows 7 build 7100 on an x200. After updating to BIOS Version 3.05 - 3.06 the system is significant slower. Where can I find the former BIOS version for download?
In advance thx a lot for support.

Hi wolfgang285, and welcome to the Lenovo User Community!
All the BIOS versions which have been released on the web are on the X200 BIOS update page.
I don't work for Lenovo. I'm a crazy volunteer!

How can I restore the latest BIOS version when it doesn't appear in "Software & Drivers" page ?

When delivered, my brand new Pavilion desktop model 500-282ef was equipped with BIOS version 8014.
On the EFI\HP\Bios partition, only the \Current directory contained another version of the BIOS, an older one, namely version 8013. The \Previous and \New directories were both empty.
Experimenting with my new BIOS, I've unadvertently downgraded my BIOS version 8014 to version 8013.
Now, as you've probably guessed, I would like to restore the latest version
The EFI partition doesn't contain any installer to restore my BIOS to its former up to date version.
Unfortunately, "the drivers and update" page on HP support site does not provide any installer either.
I would be so grateful if some of the nice people here would ask HP to point me to such (probably unreleased) updater which should obviously exist.
I have saved a copy of my second Pavilion desktop BIOS using safawin.exe in the hope I could use it to achieve a restore. But I've been unable to use it to restore the latest BIOS as the restore process also requires a signature file.
Thank you very much for your help!

Yes Dave, that's what I meant: during the "downgrade" from BIOS version 8013 to version 8014, no BIOS backup files were created and I couldn't found anything in any directory of the EFI partition.
In an attempt to solve the problem, I have put manually a copy of the BIOS (v 8014) from my second Pavilion Desktop (same model, same age) in the "\New" directory. That BIOS file was created with the safuwin.exe utility.
That has been a nice step forward: Now, from the Boot page, the Firmware Management offers me the update option ("You will update from 8013 to 8014, OK?") but when I try to so, I got a error message saying that a signature file should also be present along with the BIOS file to flash.
In the EFI\HP\BiosUpdate directory I do see some signature files like HpBiosUpdate.s14 and HpBiosUpdate32.s14 which could be the signature files I need, but I have no idea about how to use them (or maybe rename them?) to allow the procedure to complete successfully.
Concerning the warranty, do you suggest I should invoke it ? Could you please clarify ? Actually my PC has no other problem than this BIOS "downgrade".
I trust that HP has in store all the files I need, which have probably been used when configuring my PC in the factory. My problem is to have these files available in the "Software & Drivers" page on HP site...
Thank you very much for your help. I stay tuned
Twain

Do someone have the 14cn39WW bios version for S10?

In the forum, I have heard that S10 has the newest bios version --14cn39WW and this version is said to making the Fan quiet.
but I can't find it on the official site of Lenovo.Can someone upload it in the forum ?
Thanks a lot.
The way how to back up the bios :
Install the 14cn38WW.exe which can be download from the Lenovo side. then run the winPhlalsh.exe ,choose the button "backup bios only"....
Message Edited by phayds on 02-07-2009 06:57 AM

Hi phayds,
I'm not sure about 14cn39ww, but there is 14cn38w on consumersupport.lenovo.com:
http://consumersupport.lenovo.com/en/DriversDownloads/drivers_show_239.html
One note - Internet search on partial symbol seqs gives sometimes unbeleivable results!

How to change/upgrade BIOS Version String 55KT08AUS

Sir,I am having Idea Centre k200 53123BQ Dated 20/03/2008 Manufactored in INDIA. ORIGINALY Windows Vista was the OS. Now I upgraded it to Window 7 Home Premium. Ram also upgraded from 1GB to 2GB. Generaly working well. But I am getting two problem I.Getting Error message that "Windows Desktop stopped working and upgrade BIOS Version. 2. If I put the system in SLEEP mode the system get unstable and it shuts down and restarts. otherwise the system is working well. Well can I upgrade the old BIOS Version String 55KT08AUS? If so what are the compatible version? Where Can I Get the BIOS? Will Lenovo,s local Authorised Service centre can help me on payment? BIOS Vendor was Lenovo. Release Date 18/12/2007.Rom Size 512.00kb. I will beThankul if the community can throw some light on it/ M Selvaraju

ancesar wrote:
Of course my update was successful. I am able to see the 6.6 updates in other stuffs, as for example in /etc/redhat-release. Just the progress bar when Oracle Linux is bringing up is showing "Oracle Linux Server 6.4". My guess it is some kind of image, because it changes the color as the progress bar is going forward.
Actually, your update wasn't successful, or at least, it wasn't complete. The tool responsible for the boot loader screen is plymouth and the version comes from the /etc/system-release file. If the content of that file isn't "Oracle Linux Server release 6.6", then your update hasn't updated oraclelinux-release to the latest version.
However, if that file is correct, it means that plymouth hasn't updated the initrd properly during the upgrade. You can manually trigger a rebuild of the initrd by running:
# plymouth-set-default-theme text --rebuild-initrd
And it'll rebuild it for you. However, I've never seen a complete update (via yum update) that hasn't rebuilt this properly. Did you perhaps only do a security-related update using the yum-security plugin?

Page Not Found when trying to find latest BIOS version

Hi,
I regularly get a blue screen with the following error code: 0x0000009c.
According to what I've found online updating my BIOS might solve this.
However, when trying to download the latest BIOS version I'm sent to a 'Page Not Found'-page after selecting my product.
Any advice on how I can find the latest available BIOS update for my product?
My product:
HP Pavilion Elite HPE-110be Desktop pc (Model: WC694AA)
My bios:
5.15 25/06/2010
OS:
Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit
Thanks in advance,
Steven

Hello @StevenHbe,
You are running the most current BIOS for your computer so at this point the only option you would have is to restore defaults on your BIOS. If you still require help with this please call our technical support at 800-474-6836. If you live outside the US/Canada Region, please click the link below to get the support number for your region. http://www8.hp.com/us/en/contact-hp/ww-phone-assist.html.
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GTX 580 Twin Frozr II O/C - confused by bios version number, and how to flash

Hi, my first post here. But I've been reading a bit here. Still, I get confused by this whole vga bios thing, version numbers and how to flash... Ok, so here's my situation:
I have two PC's. Both with one MSI Twin Frozr II O/C GTX 580 card inside. It seems to me that both are working according to specifications, GPU-Z reports:
GPU clock 800 Mhz, Memory 1024 Mhz, Shader 1600 Mhz for the borth of them.
Now, one of them seems not to be totally stable (this is the newest I bought a few days ago). It locks up/crashes in some games. The other seems ok, I've been having that one for a while. Could this be a GPU core voltage problem? GPU-Z reports for the both of them:
VDDC 0.955 v
I've tried running MSI afterburner, changing core voltage to 1025, and in afterburner settings enable "Force constant voltage". Still, GPU-Z, which I keep running at the same time, still reports only 0.955. I thought this setting in Afterburner would change voltage to 1.025? This situation is for both the old one and the new one.
Now to the Bios "problem".
The newest card (the not so stable one) reports through GPU-Z: Bios Version 70.10.20.00.01
The oldest (stable) card: Bios Version 70.10.17.00.01
So... which one has the newest bios? Seems to me it is the newest card.
BUT - when running MSI Live Update 5 (newest version) it says for both the cards that they have the the newest bios version, and there's no need to upgrade??
SO - I go to the MSI webpage: http://no.msi.com/product/vga/N580GTX-Twin-Frozr-II-OC.html#?div=BIOS to download the newest bios manually, just in case.. But there it gets more confusing. The Bios version found there is :NV255MS.104(.zip).
And also, on that page I can not find how to use that file. Extracting it just gives me the file NV255MS.104 and no extension.
So, which bios is the newest one? 70.10.20.00.01 (the highest number, in the new card, but not stable in some games), 70.10.17.00.01 (in my old card, but seems stable in the games I've tried), or NV255.104 (which I don't know how to use).
I've flashed my main board bios many times over the years in various set ups, the bios on two different SSD disks and so on.. never had a problem with that, or finding out if I have the correct bios, how to do it and so on.
Maybe I'm stupid, but this MSI Twin Frozr II O/C GTX 580 bios thing confuses me a lot... So, how do I solve this situation?

I am also interested in the answer as I have 2 MSI N580GTX-M2D15D5/OC cards. I can find the latest BIOS file "NV801MS.KG4.zip" and know the version is "KG4". But how do you relate this to the current BIOS version Afterburner or GPU-Z provides? The version they each provide is "70.10.17.00.01" for both cards. The only other way to determine if they are up to date is to install and run MSI Live Update. MSI Live Update responds that they are up to date with no current version or online version information on the Live Update tab. At least the information on the Home tab states the same VGA BIOS version as GPU-Z and Afterburner. I can can only assume that the BIOS is updated by using MSI Live Update.
Also just for the additional information GPU-Z displays my VDDC as 1.039 briefly then 0.995 constantly when switching between cards. I actually have the cards set to 1.050 with Afterburner to be stable when running Crysis 2 DX11 updates.

Strange bios versions

I built a system for my niece and bought her the same board that I have which is the MSI-6590 KT4 Ultra. I bought mine a couple of months ago. They are the exact same board. When I run live update on hers it says she has bios version 3.0 and that there is no new version available. When I run live update on mine it says that I have version 1.3 and that 1.4 is available for it. Why is 3.0 not available for my board as well? Does this 3.0 version have the problem with detecting incorrect cpu temperatures at version 1.4 had. I double checked the boards and they are the same model.

Nevermind. I see the error of my wAys.

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