Use full life of Asset Class 1000 - Building

Hi,
I have created new Asset Class D0001 by copy existing Standard Asset class 1000 - Real estate and during IMG Activity "Determine Depreciation Areas in the Asset Classes- oayz" Field Useful life is showing in display, not editable.
Root cause i have found i.e. Asset Class 1000 - Real estate does not allow to maintain Use life in OAYZ activity, when i have created new asset class by copy 1100 - Building then system allowing to maintain use life in OAYZ.
What will be the Business reason "Asset class 1000- Real Estate, Use full life Field is showing in Display in OAYZ"

Hi:
Please follow as given
1. In t code OAYZ Select the entire row against depreciation area
3. Go to menu: Edit >> Change Field contents
4. Select the values to be changed and enter a value in it.
Alternatively you can make this field editable using AO21 ...select useful for asset class as well. It will become editable.
Regards

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Warm Greetings to All Group Members
Require Best practice solution
Current Scenario Our company Purchased the building in 2009 and In SAP system Building was created, posted to asset class Building with the depreciation for 40 Years
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Hi Eric,
thanks for your answer. As far as I can see, the option "chart of depreciation only" in transaction AM05 has the same effect than the parameter "chart of depreciation" in transaction OAYZ.
As I receive a transport request via transaction AM05, it seems that this changes the same customizing table.
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It's just strange that there is no possibility to edit the assignment asset class to chart of depreciation in customizing (I think the assignment to all asset classes in the system will be created automatically when I copy the chart of depreciation). I think the only possibility would be to edit the respective tables manually (what I definitely won't do).
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Chart of dep. 100 does not exist in class 120204 (Create chart of deprec.)
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Chart of depreciation 100 does not exist in class 120204.
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Create the chart of depreciation 100 for asset class 120204 using the transaction 'Create asset class' and the function 'Create chart of dep.'.
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Deprec. area 50 was changed and deactivated. Please check.
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Depreciation area 50 was added to asset class 120204 because this depreciation area was newly created in Customizing.
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The system adds the new depreciation area to the asset class, but its status is 'deactivated.'
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Check if this action by the system is correct. Maintain the depreciation areas in the asset class, and remove the 'deactivated' indicator there, if you choose.
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However, this says to me that the assignment asset class to chart of depreciation is created by SAP automatically and this can't be influenced.
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youare saying corret But you should be follow some rules for calucation of deprecation
System considered the capitalization date + useful life period for depreciation calculation not only this
the system should be consideration the depreciation key , useful life , periods , ordinary depreciation for calculation depreciation and in depreciation areas tab in asset master we have to maintain like 1depreciation key 2.useful life 3.periods 4. ordinary depreciation start .if we give ordinary depreciation start date 21.10.2009 system will be calculated depreciation 21.10.2009 onwards. then only system can run depreciation plan wise in AW01N .
first we give the ordinary depreciation start date in depreciation area tab in asset master .system automatically will calculate depreciation from these date on words.
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which is possible to increase the useful life in asset master and also we can run depreciation from 20.10.2009 onwards till expire asset
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1.Go for AFAMS multiple method and give the parameters such as acciquistion year , periods
2.we have to activate depreciation key in AFAMA
3.in as02 in depreciation area tab here we have to give the depreciation key , useful life , periods , ordinary depreciation start date
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With regards /G chandrababu
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