Use of planning characteristics in APO DP

I am using APO DP V5.
In my planning object structure I have the following planning characteristics:
- product
- product group
- customer
Suppose I am extracting history data (based on despatches) from an attached ECC system.
As I see things, I have two alternatives for the extraction of 'product group':
1. Extract the product group when I extract the despatch data from ECC
2. Model the product group as an attribute (display) of the product InfoObject, maintain this attribute as part of APO master data, and then read the product group from the product master data when I extract the despatch data from ECC.
What is 'best practice' in this situation.
Thanks, Bob Austin

Bob
Both your Options being valid technically and will work you need to now judge based on the demerits of the methods based on your situation
If you expect a huge CVC population and dont to have say a million CVCs you would want to use attributes thus effectively distributing it into two tables
Your Product Group to product will be one to many i suppose so the CVCs in your MPOS will be reduced by a factor or that ratio
Now this also means that you will need to look at a join of the table if you are using you Attributes as selections. So that is going to take more time and if your client is not patient youo may not want to take that route
Also your downstream planning process and your regular maintainance of your system needs to be considered.
Attributes are good if you want them just to navigate but if you want a forecast profile or if you want a realignment based on them it might end up to be a bit of a pain. I remember we had a post from you on this one and there are a few more points that are not favorable to Nav attribs
So youo need to weigh in the advantages each of these will give you and how much weightage you place on these advantages for your situation.
If you have the Prod group in ECC and can extract it i would prefer that option. Looks straightforward that way

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