Using alternative accounts to payments on F110

We are posting with alternative reconciliation account to post invoices for asset fixed acquisition with vendors because vendors are ocacional vendors of asset fixed. On payment with F110 transaction we need use diferents accounts on posting payment depends on the account post on the invoice.
Sap tell us that the system use for all postings the account of the reconciliation account onvendor master and never use the alternative account used on the document.
Do you know solutions of this problem?
Thaks on advance.
Roberto Lena

Hi Roberto,
The account used in the payment run is based on Housbank- Payment method , currency, Account ID
When you assign these vendors to an other combination you can have an other clearing account.
Paul

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Generate Positive Payment File
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