Using two PCI 6221 boards on a target PC

Hi all,
I'm currently working on a project which requires real time control, and I was wondering if I can install two PCI 6221 boards on a target PC.
I've tried using one PCI 6221, which works fine, but what if I add another one?
Also, would I need better CPU for that?
Thank you for your help.

They are both development environments, so the answer is the same for CVI.
This is more of a hardware question and would be appropriate in the Real Time forums board.
Adnan Zafar
Certified LabVIEW Architect
Coleman Technologies

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Using two PCI 6221 on a target PC

Hi all,
I'm currently working on a project which requires real time control, and I was wondering if I can install two PCI 6221 boards on a target PC.
I've tried using one PCI 6221, which works fine, but what if I add another one?
Also, would I need better CPU for that?
Just let you know, I'm using CVI 9.0 under Windows XP
Thank you for your help.

They are both development environments, so the answer is the same for CVI.
This is more of a hardware question and would be appropriate in the Real Time forums board.
Adnan Zafar
Certified LabVIEW Architect
Coleman Technologies

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Hello Hellraiser24,
This question has actually been discussed in another thread here:
http://forums.ni.com/ni/board/message?board.id=170&message.id=95895&requireLogin=False
I hope this helps,
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Hello;
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I am trying to obtain voltage readings at 8000 kHz from 9 channels using a PCI-6221 DAQmx card. The waveforms are to be displayed on individual charts while being saved. I have run into problems when I have 4 channels reading in at the same time. The charts stop displaying the data. Since the program will be running within another program where video acquisition is being done, space/buffer size is a very large consideration. If anyone can offer any suggestions about being able to display and save this data without losing seconds of information, the help would be appreciated.
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Q: Re: Q: Acquiring data using two E series devices connected by RTSI and streaming data to disk

<< (My first posting)
I use two E series PCI Cards, connected by RTSI. I'd like to stream the data
from both cards to a binary file and to add a header to it.
I also need to somehow read (plot) the stored data, this with another VI.
The whole should be then integrated into an existing program, that used just
one acquisition card.
Till now I have tried to combine "Two E-series Shared ScanClk.vi" and "High
Speed Data Logger.vi" into another VI, and I have tried to read the stored
data with the "High Speed Data Reader.vi". The problem is that I fight with
one error after another, what prevents me from going further.
I use LabView 6.1, under Windows 2K.
Has somebody by chance already done something similar and would agree to
share with me their experience? TIA for any suggestion.
Regards,
Victor Manta
>>
"Ben" wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Hi Victor,
>
> I have done a lot of similar work.
>
> Exactly what did you try and what specific errors did you encounter?
>
> What you are trying is do-able provided the hardware you have suuports
> it.
>
> Please post (both here and to the DAQ group)
> the details of the hardware you are using,
> versions of software being used,
> Examples that you are using,
> error codes that occured,
> posibly post example code showing the problem.
>
> Ben
Hi Ben,
I use two PCI-MIO-16E-1 cards, connected by RTSI. I'd like to stream the
data from both cards in real time to a binary file, after having added a
header to it.
For tests, on the channel 0 of each card is applied the same square wave,
100 Hz.
Yes, the hardware support RTSI. I use LabView 6.1.
Till now I have:
1. Combined the "Two E-series Shared ScanClk.vi" and the "High
Speed Data Logger.vi" into a DAQ VI. To do this, I have "doubled" and
adapted the "High Speed Data Logger.vi". For testing purposes the data are
stored in two files, always the same ones (the old ones being overwritten
after each acquisition).
2. "Doubled" and adapted "High Speed Data Reader.vi" into another VI, for
reading from both files, mentioned earlier.
What already works:
- The headers for both files are correctly stored (VI point 1.)
- The acquired data from the first card (device 1) are correctly stored (VI
point 1.)
- The VI (point 2.) that reads both files and displays the results works
What doesn't work:
- The acquired data from the second card aren't stored at all (VI point 1.)
- An error message says: "Error -10608 occurred at AI Buffer Read. Possible
reason: NI-DAQ LV: No transfer is in progress for the specified resource."
I think that I understand this message, but I don't know how to continue.
The DAQ VI can be downloaded from (please click the link, then the link on
that page; about 100K, zipped):
http://www.swissheartnet.unibe.ch/labview.htm
Thanks a lot in advance.
Regards,
Victor Manta
PS. I don't know which DAQ group you mean.

"Filipe A." wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Victor;
>
> You can definitely accomplish that task with the DAQ boards you have
> and Labview.
>
> It would be good if you could be more specific as far as what type of
> errors you are seeing and how you are integrating both VIs.
>
> Regards
> Filipe A.
> Applications Engineer
> National Instruments
Maybe Mr. Filipe A. could help me? Please see below, and TIA.
Regards,
Victor Manta
"Victor Manta" wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> << (My first posting)
> I use two E series PCI Cards, connected by RTSI. I'd like to stream the
data
> from both cards to a binary file and to add a header to it.
>
> I also need to somehow read (plot) the stored data, this with another VI.
>
> The whole should be then integrated into an existing program, that used
just
> one acquisition card.
>
> Till now I have tried to combine "Two E-series Shared ScanClk.vi" and
"High
> Speed Data Logger.vi" into another VI, and I have tried to read the stored
> data with the "High Speed Data Reader.vi". The problem is that I fight
with
> one error after another, what prevents me from going further.
>
> I use LabView 6.1, under Windows 2K.
>
> Has somebody by chance already done something similar and would agree to
> share with me their experience? TIA for any suggestion.
>
> Regards,
> Victor Manta
> >>
>
> "Ben" wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > Hi Victor,
> >
> > I have done a lot of similar work.
> >
> > Exactly what did you try and what specific errors did you encounter?
> >
> > What you are trying is do-able provided the hardware you have suuports
> > it.
> >
> > Please post (both here and to the DAQ group)
> > the details of the hardware you are using,
> > versions of software being used,
> > Examples that you are using,
> > error codes that occured,
> > posibly post example code showing the problem.
> >
> > Ben
>
> Hi Ben,
>
> I use two PCI-MIO-16E-1 cards, connected by RTSI. I'd like to stream the
> data from both cards in real time to a binary file, after having added a
> header to it.
>
> For tests, on the channel 0 of each card is applied the same square wave,
> 100 Hz.
>
> Yes, the hardware support RTSI. I use LabView 6.1.
>
> Till now I have:
>
> 1. Combined the "Two E-series Shared ScanClk.vi" and the "High
> Speed Data Logger.vi" into a DAQ VI. To do this, I have "doubled" and
> adapted the "High Speed Data Logger.vi". For testing purposes the data are
> stored in two files, always the same ones (the old ones being overwritten
> after each acquisition).
>
> 2. "Doubled" and adapted "High Speed Data Reader.vi" into another VI, for
> reading from both files, mentioned earlier.
>
> What already works:
>
> - The headers for both files are correctly stored (VI point 1.)
> - The acquired data from the first card (device 1) are correctly stored
(VI
> point 1.)
> - The VI (point 2.) that reads both files and displays the results works
>
> What doesn't work:
>
> - The acquired data from the second card aren't stored at all (VI point
1.)
> - An error message says: "Error -10608 occurred at AI Buffer Read.
Possible
> reason: NI-DAQ LV: No transfer is in progress for the specified resource."
>
> I think that I understand this message, but I don't know how to continue.
>
> The DAQ VI can be downloaded from (please click the link, then the link on
> that page; about 100K, zipped):
>
> http://www.swissheartnet.unibe.ch/labview.htm
>
> Thanks a lot in advance.
>
> Regards,
>
> Victor Manta
>
> PS. I don't know which DAQ group you mean.

PCI-6221 high CPU usage

I'm currently using a PCI-6221 DAQmx card to continuously acquire readings from 9 channels at 5000 samples per channel per second. Using a timed while loop, I reduced the CPU usage to ~50%. When I add the additional control code for two other devices (that use ~4% of the CPU each), the CPU usage goes up to 100%. I tried to increase the DMA on the PCI card, but it doesn't appear that I can alter it on this card. I'm setting the "DAQmx Read" control to "Analog 1D Waveform N Channels N Samples." Also, when I remove the waveform indicators on the front screen, it doesn't lower the CPU much. If anyone can offer suggestions for lowering the CPU usage without sacrificing the above mentioned data collection parameters, I would appreciate the help greatly!
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Alan,
The CPU usage for the 9 EMG signals is ~50%. The second input is video acquisition using an IMAQ 1411 card acquiring 30 samples per second with real time display. The third input is a serial connection which samples at 1Hz. Each of these codes uses approximately 4% CPU when running separately. Each has the option of saving the data while still continually displaying on the front panel. The video acquisition utilizes the grab image setup along with notifiers for saving the data. To link the saving of the files (using case structures) to a single control button on the front panel , I created local boolean variables. The EMG readings use a timed while loop. The serial connection uses a timed while loop cycling at the same frequency. The video acquisition uses a while loop contained within a for loop.
Thanks for your continued help!
Nina
Message Edited by nins on 07-06-2005 02:47 PM

NI PCI 6221 and SCB-68 and timer

I'm using NI PCI 6221 and SCB-68. Can I use timer with Single Two-Signal Edge-Separation Measurement. Is this type of measurement can be set with that hardware combination. I,m asking becouse when I,m using DAQ ASSISTANCE it pointing the pin name that doesn,t exist on the SCB-68.

Hi Fazi,
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hei,
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Hi everyone,
I bought a few PCI-6221 (37-pin) data acquisition cards and have been able to get one to work but 3 others don't work.
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[email protected]

Thanks Tom for your suggestion to try NI-DAQ 8.0. I just saw it today. Yesterday,
I was able to isolate 3 PCI-6221-37 boards as defective because they all wouldn't work in another computer while
one other identical model card did work in that same computer. I called to arrange to return them to NI and learned
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with NI-DAQ 7.5. Apparently, this was a known problem.
I wish NI would have simply notified me that my boards would
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waste a day of my engineering time trying to figure it all out. Booo NI.
One of the boards has worked for almost a day under NIDAQ 8.0. I was able to make some progress on the
system I am building. But then it stopped working. LabVIEW
(version 7.0 executable) programs would not open completely
or would open slowly. One that accessed the COM port only (no
data acquisition) did work. MAX opened very slowly or not at all
and when I click on
Devices and Interfaces, the hourglass is up for a long time and finally the + icon goes away indicating that MAX is not
aware of any devices being present. The Windows Device Manager says the board is present and working. Windows
Task Manager lists LabVIEW Runtime and MAX when only MAX is open and indicates that MAX is Not Responding.
I shut down the computer, removed the PCI-6221 board, booted it up again, and MAX is the same way. I uninstalled
MAX and NI-DAQ LabVIEW 7.0 support and then reinstalled them.
Now the MAX loading window is up for more than a minute and NIMAX.exe is listed in Task Manager's processes. After
the first minute, LabVIEW Runtime appears in the Task Manager's
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and MAX is listed in the Applications. I click on the + icon by Devices and Interfaces in MAX and the hourglass appears
and Windows Task Manager says MAX is Not Responding. Eventually, the + icon and the hourglass go away and
the Task Manager lists LabVIEW Runtime and MAX as Running.
I shut the computer off for several minutes, started it up again, and MAX is still takes a long, long time to open.
I haven't put the PCI-6221 card back in because MAX still isn't working.
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Thanks
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High frequency quadrature decoder (NI PCI 6221)

Hello, i would like to ask you about high frequency quadrature decoder. I am using module in DAQmx for measuring linear position. For this i am using NI PCI 6221. My problem is that i want to use this for my interferometer and we need really high speed. So I tried to use External timing whitch should be possible for this card up to 80MHz. Unfortunatelly i always will get error message that there is some kind of owerflow and my program crashes. So my question is how to get all data form this card. I know that the buffer size FIFO is only 2 so if it is impossible to get all data so i want find another solution. Is it possible let my card work alone on 80MHz and only repeatly rewrite all buffer and just sometime ask this card for sending current buffer. I dont really need all the data, but when i will ask i need to know reall position. This high speed is really necessary because my interferometer is sensitive and i dont wat to lose any steps. If there would be any possibility how to work on 80MHz and only sometime ask for sending data with position, it would be great. Sometimes i will ask not for only current position but for full buffer because i want so see what is happening during some time period, but this task will be only sometime.

Dear BMAJTZ,
The counter frequency (the maximum speed available) is configured by the Task in the background. In our case, the counter is set to detect edges, so it always uses the maximum speed available. If an edge occurs, the count value increases by 1, and this accumulated count value (stored as a binary number) is read by the DAQmx Read VI, and converted to meters. So if your encoder input is slow enough for the 80 MHz card to handle, you won't miss any ticks, even if you only read the value occasionally.
You can find further information about counters and encoders on these links:
http://www.ni.com/academic/students/learnlabview/digital.htm
http://www.ni.com/white-paper/7109/en
Also if you can tell me the approximate frequency of your encoder signal, and how often you nedd the position info, I can do some benchmarking for you to see if your card is capable of the task.
Best regards:
Andrew Valko
National Instruments
Andrew Valko
National Instruments Hungary

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