Version of Disk Utility

Does the Version make a difference?
Got "Spring Cleaning 9.0" for Mac.
Claims <Disk Utility> is damaged.
I reinstalled from the Tiger Disk <DU 10.5.4 on iMac DC>
Spring Cleaning gives it a clean bill of health.
What it replaced was <DU 10.5.8 on the iMac DC>
Is this version difference important?
What caused it to change from the original?
-wbajr tbc
eMac DVD iMac DC intel Mac OS X (10.4.10)

Yes, it makes a difference. You should only use the
version of Disk Utility that was installed when you
installed the version of OS X you are currently
running. If you are running Tiger then you should be
using the version of DU that was installed by the
Tiger installer.
Any updates for DU would be made by an OS X updater
for the OS X you are using. For Tiger these would
be 10.4.1 through 10.4.10. The current Tiger version
of DU is 10.5.8. If would be safe to use on any
Tiger system.
I would suggest you not rely on Spring Cleaning. It
has a notorious reputation for being buggy and
unreliable. The best commercial tools to have are:
Disk Warrior
TechTool Pro
If you are concerned about system upkeep:
Kappy's Personal Suggestions for
OS X Maintenance
For disk repairs use Disk Utility. For situations DU cannot
handle the best third-party utilities are: Disk Warrior; DW
only fixes problems with the disk directory, but most
disk problems are caused by directory corruption;
Disk Warrior 4.0 is now Intel Mac compatible. TechTool Pro
provides additional repair options including file
repair and recovery, system diagnostics, and disk
defragmentation. TechTool Pro 4.5.2 is Intel Mac
compatible; Drive Genius is
similar to TechTool Pro in terms of the various
repair services provided. The current version,
1.5.1, is Intel Mac compatible.
OS X performs certain maintenance functions that are
scheduled to occur on a daily, weekly, or monthly
period. The maintenance scripts run in the early AM
only if the computer is turned on 24/7 (no sleep.) If
this isn't the case, then an excellent solution is to
download and install a shareware utility such as Macaroni, JAW
PseudoAnacron, or Ana
cron that will automate the maintenance activity
regardless of whether the computer is turned off or
asleep.
OS X automatically defrags files less than 20 MBs in
size, so unless you have a disk full of very large
files there's little need for defragmenting the hard
drive. As for virus protection there are few if any
such animals affecting OS X. You can protect the
computer easily using the freeware Open Source virus
protection software ClamXAV
. Personally I would avoid most commercial anti-virus
software because of their potential for causing
problems.
I would also recommend downloading the shareware
utility TinkerTool
System that you can use for periodic maintenance
such as removing old logfiles and archives, clearing
caches, etc.
For emergency repairs install the freeware utility Applejack
. If you cannot start up in OS X, you may be able to
start in single-user mode from which you can run
Applejack to do a whole set of repair and maintenance
routines from the commandline.
When you install any new system software or updates
be sure to repair the hard drive and permissions
beforehand. I also recommend booting into safe mode before doing system software
updates.
Get an external Firewire drive at least equal in size
to the internal hard drive and make (and maintain) a
bootable clone/backup. You can make a bootable clone
using the Restore option of Disk Utility. You can
also make and maintain clones with good backup
software. My personal recommendations are (order is
not significant):
1. Retrospect
Desktop (Commercial - not yet universal binary)
2. Synchronize! Pro
X (Commercial)
3. Synk
(Backup, Standard, or Pro)
4. Deja
Vu (Shareware)
5. PsynchX
2.1.1 and RsyncX 2.1 (Freeware)
6. Carbon
Copy Cloner (Freeware - 3.0 is a Universal
Binary)
7. SuperDuper!
(Commercial)
The following utilities can also be used for backup,
but cannot create bootable clones:
1. Backup (requires a .Mac account with
Apple both to get the software and to use it.)
2. Toast
3. Impression
4. arRSync
Apple's Backup is a full backup tool capable of also
backing up across multiple media such as CD/DVD.
However, it cannot create bootable backups. It is
primarily an "archiving" utility as are the other
two.
Impression and Toast are disk image based backups,
only. Particularly useful if you need to backup to
CD/DVD across multiple media.
Visit The XLab
FAQs and read the FAQs on maintenance,
optimization, virus protection, and backup and
restore.
Additional suggestions will be found in Mac Maintenance Quick Assist.
Referenced software can be found at
www.versiontracker.com and www.macupdate.com.
Very Helpful!
Thanks for the NFO.
One Follow up: Best way back to DU 10.5.8?
a) drop in a copy from my clone drive?
b) Reinstall Tiger {Archive Option} and perform succesive updates?
Spring Cleaning is one of those utilities I try about every 3 years to see if it got any better Thanks for the confidence boost in my old standby: TechTool

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