Visibility of purchase order costs in sales order

We are a make-to-order sales and manufacturing organisation. Most of our products are manufactured in-house but some are procured externally. Where we manufacture products in-house we are able to see the costs in the EK02 condition type within the sales order. However, where we procure the product externally this is not the case. What is the best solution for making these costs visible as we unable to measure margin without them?

Peter,
As per my view If you use EK01 condition type, the result of unit costing is issued to the first position on the conditions screen for the item. The value can be used as a basis for price determination.
and EK02 is only for statistical purpose
The parts which you are procuring externally's Cost will come from MM side.
Thanks,
Raja

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