WBS settled cost in sales order
Hi,
We settlele the WBS to Sales order and where we can see the settled cost in sales order.
Kindly suggest.
Thanks,
Dear Sudha,
You can check if the costs are transferred from WBS element in CJI3 (you will see a credit posting for the WBS element)
You can check if the costs are debited to the Sales Order using KVBI (you wlll see a debit posting for the Sales Order item)
Note: Cost elements that you see could be a settlement cost element /original cost element based on the allocation structure used.
Kind Regards
Umapathi G
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Can you look at this issue
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You should follow following steps for Order Settlement after confirmation :
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I come to know that for the above method, production order in company A can be settled to Sales Order item in Company B (with assumption that Company A & Company B are intercompany and assigned to 1 Controlling area.
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I have to settle sales orders in VA88 and transfer data to COPA. I want to do directly without result analysis. So, in the item category, I removed the result analysis key. And the settlement goes thru.
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Pl suggest a solution to settle the July sales order to COPA.
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kamalaHi Kamala
I see only one possibility... The old sales order consists of some GL accounts posted in it which is not mapped in the allocation structure...
Alloc Str has 2 parts - i.e. One, it consists of a group of cost elements it has to handle and Two, it consists of the valid settlement receivers like PSG, CTR, etc
You say, this alloc str works well with new sales orders.... The 2nd part of alloc structure (i.e. valid receivers) applies equally to all sales orders.. But what can really differentiate the 2 sales orders is the cost elements posted on it...
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System status REL is active , Message no. BS013,CO88 COST-BY-SALES-ORDER
Hi Experts,
I meet error when i do the production order settlement"CO88" ,
Which the production mode is cost-by-sales-order undifferentiated mode.
the error information as bellow:
System status REL is active (ORD XXXXX)
Message no. BS013
Diagnosis
Object ORD XXXXXX has system status REL (Released). According to this status, transaction 'settelemtn' is not allowed.
Procedure
You can only carry out the requested function if this is allowed according to the status of the object.
Pls. Help in resolving.
Best Regards,Dear Szymon and Mukthar,
Fisrtly,Thank you for your help!
I have changed the status "TECO"(the status is "TECO PCNF DLV PRC GMPS MANC SETC"),then I settlement the production order.
The system still error:
"Debit from actual settlement" not allowed (Sys. status REL, object VB0000000015000010)
Message no. BS051
Diagnosis
The status check for the status object VB0000000015000010 indicated that the procedure "Debit from actual settlement" cannot be performed because Sys. status REL forbids it.
System Response
Procedure "Debit from actual settlement" is not performed.
Procedure
If procedure "Debit from actual settlement" is to be performed, the Sys. status REL of object VB0000000015000010 must be reset.
Other statuses than Sys. status REL can also prevent the procedure. This message does not tell you all statuses which currently prevent procedure "Debit from actual settlement".
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I use the MTO mode, the receiver of settlement is SALES ORDER.(the settlement rule is SDI) -
Product cost by sales order - conceptual clarity required
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If I don't do the setting i cannot get a component wise split for the cost of sales order to do any analyses. but still I'll have the COGS which i'll capture to COPA and take the profitability.
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A. Only Qty i.e. GR from Prod order is tagged to Sales Order.. Sales order is not a CO Object....
This scenario is as good as MTS... Only that GR is tagged to SO....
Your costs are collected on Prod order....
PGI uses GBB-VAX i.e. does not post to sales order... Billing updates revenue and COGS to costing based COPA
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C. SO is cost obj with valuated stock...
B -
Prod Order is settled upon sales order.. GR from prod order does not update any acc doc
Sales order is settled to COPA.. Here you can use a PA Trf Str where in you have replicated your Cost Comp Str... i.e. You can create as many assignment lines in KEI1 as your CCS in OKTZ and assign each one of them to a separtae value field
No question of variances in this case
C
Prod order is not settled upon sales order.... GR from Prod order updates acc doc.... However, variance from prod order can be settled to the sales order if you create variance account as a cost element... Else, it is settled to COPA
Upon PGI, the COGS is posted to Sales Order as a single line item
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1. while calculating Sales order cost estimate thru VA02 , the same Cost estimate is appearing against with EK02 condition type in Sales order Condotions. what is the use of Sales order Cost estimate? is there any impact on production?
2. What is Difference between Sales Order Cost Estimate and Order BOM Cost estimate?
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PrasadHi,
there are 3 types of scenarios in MTO.
In Two scenarios Sale Order would be cost object - (Non-Valuated Sale orders stock and Valuated Sale Order stock with Sale order being Cost Object)
In third scenario (Valuated Sale Order Stock without Sale Order controlling), Only Production Order is the Cost Object.
In all the cases wherever the Sale Order is the cost object, Sale Order is the final Receiver. Only the difference is that in valuated sale order stock, stock entries would be passed to FI and in non-valuated sale order, no goods movement for FG will be there.
Please let me know if you need further details in this regard
Surya -
Dear all,
Please tell me the process in product costing by sales order.
In my client place, i have done the configuration but i dont know the process.
Please guide me.
Thanks & Regards,
ARHi,
Product cost by sales order is useful when a finished product is manufactured for a specific customer rather than for the normal make-to-stock inventory. You can use the Product Cost by Sales Order component in the following situations:
When you are manufacturing in-house with reference to a sales order in complex make-to-order production
When you are purchasing customer-specific trading goods with reference to a sales order and reselling them to your customers
When you are providing services whose costs are assigned to a sales order
When you want to collect the sum of the actual costs incurred for the sales order item on the sales order item (standard cost of goods manufactured of sales plus variances) For detailed information, refer to the sections Valuated Sales Order Stock and Settlement in Product Cost by Order or Period.
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