Can I use third party DAQ boards with Labview real time?

I have an Adlink DAQ 2010 card that I curently use with labview. Will this card also work with Labview real time? What requironments are there for 3rd party cards to work with Labview real time?
Thanks!

Hello George,
Here is a great link for you to take a look at: Can I Use a Third-Party Device with LabVIEW RT?
Have a great day,
NathanT

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Third-party boards with the real-time OS

I have some third-party PXI board and would like to work with it with the NI's real-time OS, provided with
the NI's RT computers (like PXI-8170).
- How do I tell to the OS that there is some board connected to it ? How do I map it I/O ports in the I/O address space of that embedded computer ?
- May I write directly to the I/O ports in this OS ? (E.g., in NT I cannot, I need a driver that runs in kernel mode.)

To program a third party board you can use VISA Register Level Programming. The first thing you'll need to do is to generate an .inf file - this file is used for NI-VISA to properly locate your PXI instrument. To create this file, use the PXI Driver Development Wizard that ships with NI-VISA. This drivers will collect basic information about your board - manufacturer ID, model ID, and interrupt handling (if applicable.) Once the .inf file is created, you can ftp it to the RT controller. You will then be able to use VISA register level code (peeks and pokes, etc) to program the board.
Regards,
Dafna

How can I use the ni-6024-e with the real time of matlab/simulink. Where can I find any example?

I am doing the final project and I need to control the ni-6024-e with the RTW (real time) of matlab/simulink.
Does anyone know or have any example?.
Thanks

Rafelmor,
Have you contacted The MathWorks yet? They probably have the best information.
However, I did a quick search and found some information on The MathWorks' site. For Data Acquisition Toolbox examples: http://www.mathworks.com/access/helpdesk/help/toolbox/daq/daq_example_index.shtml.
For RTW information: http://www.mathworks.com/support/product/RT/.
Good luck with your application.

How come you can not use more than 126GB of a 1.5TB diskdrive with LabVIEW Real Time?

How come you can not use more than 126GB of a 1.5TB diskdrive with LabVIEW Real Time?
This is only 8.3% of the available disk drive space!
http://digital.ni.com/public.nsf/allkb/E7E2F5657B6026358625750B007201A6?OpenDocument
National Instrument's solution is either reformat you drive to less than 126GB or replace the drive with one less than that size.
Please NI, tell me you are going to fix your LabVIEW Real Time soon, and that we won't have to wait for LabVIEW RT 9.2.1 in 2011 for this one to be fixed.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/90/Hard_drive_capacity_over_time.svg
Drives as large as 126GB or more have been around since about mid 2002. That's about 7 Years now and LabVIEW Real Time STILL can't use drives larger that 126GB! Please NI. Do something.
We deserve fixes to the old versions of LabVIEW RT. How about updates to LabVIEW RT. Such as 7.0.2, 7.1.2, 7.6.2, 8.0.2, 8.2.2, 8.6.2.
We don't need new features or versions of LabVIEW RT such as 9.0 until we have some of bugs fixed in the existing versions.
Kevin.
Message Edited by kmcdevitt on 05-29-2009 03:39 PM
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Coq rouge wrote:
NI is not making the Real Time OS in house. I do not remember which firm that is making it. Anyway you are allowed to use a hard drive that has been partitioned. And 126GB is some space is it not? I remember Bill Gates declared one time that 640Kb ram should be more than enough for any PC application also in the future
Coq Rouge (formerly t06afre),
The RealTime OS is an NI Product that is purchased from NI.
NI may or may not outsource design, developement, or manufacturing of the products that it sells under its own Company name.
For this reason I would be concerned if I were a PXI Embedded Controller designer/developer in the United States.
Yes, 126GB is some space. I see that there are now 2TB drives available. 126GB would be 6.3% of a new 2TB drive. Should we all be happy with being able to use 6.3% of the available drive space. Moore's Law seams to be alive and well. Drives larger than 126GB have been readily available for 5 or 6 Years. This should not be a surprise to NI. Why don't they do something about it.
Thanks for the trivia on Bill Gates. I must have missed that one since I don't try to keep up with Microsoft. I believe that he is a wonderful person and he and his family are doing wonders for the world in their "retirement". The world needs more like him.
What I do remember is Steve Jobs telling us that we would never need more that 128MB and that we would never to need to do anymore software development because everything was already in the "ToolBox".
McKevin.

Interfacing LabView compatible DAQ board w/ third party DAQ boards

Dear NI-team and board-members,
In my current project I'm using a third party Direct Digital Controller which supports customizable Programmable Logic Control (PLC) via a graphical programming software. Therefore, I'm acquisitioning temperatures (etc.) from my miniature-HVAC application via physically attached and mounted sensors, connect them to a dedictaed analog input (0-10VDC typically) and in further assign the analog input to some selected PLC modules with the help of the graphical programming software, and finally after doing the computation (calculator block) or control (Proportional-Integral-Derivative block) I assign the resulting control signal to a dedicated analog output (typically 0-10VDC as well).
So far for the previous history, NOW I actually want to be able, to manipulate these analog values in a way, that I'm not interested in the physical acquisitioned value from my real-time operating equipment (e.g. temperature sensors), more than that, I'm interested in assigning a certain level (e.g. +5 VDC) to that dedicated analog input, which in turn would represent a temperature e.g. in this simple case (+5VDC) 50degF.
Now to the questions, can I possibly interface the physical ANALOG INPUT (0-10VDC) of my third party DDC unit, with the ANALOG OUTPUTS (0-10VDC) of a NI DAQ board? In that way, I'd be able and with some additional help of LabView to program time intervals, where I raise the voltage level every 5 minutes by 1VDC, and in turn can proceed with my intended purpose.
To sum that up, are there physical limitations (e.g. ground loops, damage equipment, shorting) connecting an analog output of one board, to the analog input of another board?
Also, which DAQ of NI might be best suited for my intended purpose, using a NI DAQ board for "simulating" temperature values (etc.) onto the analog inputs of another third party board.
Thank you,
Sandro

Hi Sandro,
If both boards are in the same computer I wouldn't be too worried about ground loops or damaging equipment. The ground reference to the AO board will be the same ground reference as the computer and AI board. You would have to check with the specs for your third party AI board to see what overvoltage protection it has and whether or not our AO board could give a voltage high enough to damage it.
I would suggest one of our AO boards to do the job. Depending on what kind of control and precision you want, we have static update boards available in PCI form. The static board will be cheaper but you are limited to software timed voltage updates (instead of clocked buffered waveform output).
http://sine.ni.com/apps/we/nioc.vp?cid=12550〈=US
I would suggest the AO board (PCI-67xx) instead of our M series multifunction boards because the AO boards have 8 or more output channels. The multifunction boards only have two output channels.
-Sal

Hi am trying to save Data into a write to measurement file vi using a NI PXI 1042Q with a real time mode but it is not working but when i run it with uploading it into the PXI it save in to the file

Hi am trying to save Data into a write to measurement file vi using a NI PXI 1042Q and DAQ NI PXI-6229 with a real time mode but it is not working but when i run it without uploading it into the PXI it save in to the file please find attached my vi
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PWMs.vi ‏130 KB

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Is Ardence RTX required when I use PCI-7831R with labview real-time module for RTX target

I am new in the labview real-time field. I want to use labview real-time module for RTX target on only one desktop. My card is PCI-78331R. Is Ardence RTX necessary? Why I cannot find my card in the MAX after I configured the RTX?
Thank you very much.

Hi Ziaozhongda,
You must have the RTX runtime engine installed before the LabVIEW Real-Time RTX module will install. Additionally, you should follow the instructions in the "Using the NI PCI-7831R with the LabVIEW Real-Time Module for RTX" section of Getting Started with the NI 7831R (page 8).
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How do I talk to 1-Wire devices with LabVIEW Real-Time?

Hello, I'm trying to use LabVIEW Real-Time to talk to some older 1-Wire devices that my company has previously communicated with using C code. We are currently developing on a cRIO and are trying to use a Dallas Semiconductor 2480 serial port device to talk to some iButtons and a secure SHA 1-Wire device. I have run into a few problems where the 1-Wire device stops communicating and just repeats the data sent to it. I was wondering if anyone has successfully created any VI's to talk with 1-Wire devices via the serial port that do NOT use any kind of Java or .NET or Windows based device drivers supplied by Dallas Semi. A last resort would be that we keep the C code and place it in a block in LabVIEW and run it as is but I would prefer to have some LabVIEW-native code. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.

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"GNU toolchain distributed with Wind River VxWorks"
I have been unable to locate a compiler for VxWorks so I am assuming that is located in this GNU toolchain thing? Does that come with the cRIO? I think I noticed a VxWorks C compiler somewhere else online but we're talking a totally different product I would have to purchase, assuming it would even work. I guess once the stub and the shared library are all good to go, I just call the C functions in the shared library and when it comes time to talk to the serial port, just slap a VISA Read/Write VI on the block diagram. I've been using a cRIO and COM1 access for some time now so I do understand at least that much. Let me know how to get ahold of this "toolchain" thing. Thanks.

How can I configure a third party VME board with A24 address space using a VME-MXI-2?

Hi!
We are trying to establish communications to a Galil Motion controller with a VME interface. Galil states that they are using a A24 address scheme with A16 data space for their board.
I am confused how to configure that board in the VME chassis properly.
The base address provided by Galil is 91Fxxx, I am assuming that the lower three nibbles are the registers that I can talk to?!
How do I set the address range under the resource setting for that board?
Also, I noticed in MAX that one board shows up with a slot number unknown, one with slot #0 and this board I have set to slot #1. I assume that the unknown part is for the PCI card that makes up for the 1/2 of the PCI to VME bridge?
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Our assumption of the problem is that we do not understand how to properly configure that third party board as a resource. It has also happened that the resource manager is hanging up the PC completely. Not even CTRL-ALT-DEL works and the MXI activity LED on the NI-VME-MXI-2 board stays on during the hand up.
We would appreciate, if somebody could walk us through the configuration process, step-by-step. Specifically, please explain how to setup the base address and how the offsets relate to this on a A24 address scheme. We are completely new to the VME bus interface, so even trivial things may be unkown to us.
We have browsed NI's page and manuals for explanations, however, we could not find any answers to our questions.
We noticed a formula for an A16 board that takes the base address and adds the logical address to it plus 40hex. Do we have to do the same or something similar to the A24 board????
We also came accross an option that would allow the board (NI VME controller) to share its memory with A24 or A32 space? Do we need to enable that? What is the purpose for that?
Best,
Markus Tarin
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www.movitherm.com - Advanced Thermography Solutions

When I did not get a response here, I had to open a ticket with support. The short answer is that you cannot customize the SAML response when using Azure AD as an IdP.
Response from support:
I discussed the issue with senior engineers to get action plan for this issue. After doing research Senior engineers updated me that we cannot add a custom attribute to the default
SAML response of Azure AD.
Below is the link to get the list of available attributes
https://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/azure/dn195587.aspx
As default SAML response from Azure AD , we have email address of the user sent out as attribute value for the Attribute " NAME ".
They suggested me to configure the application we are trying to integrate with Azure AD in such a way that it transforms the Attribute " NAME " into " EMAIL
This was not particularly helpful in my case as I did not have any control over the 3rd party which specifically documented that they would not extract the email address from the name attribute.
Cheers,
Jeff

Can I use third party web services that communicate via http-post with webui builder?

Hi,
I have 5 computers (services) that are controlled via http-post. 3 of these services are implemented as labview webservices, 1 is labview socket (with python http-wrapper) and the last one is implemented with c# (lighttpd + cgi).
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Can I use third party Windows CE based touch panel to control my system?

I want to use a WindowsCE based touch panel to control my system by connecting a CompactDAQ to it through USB and installing the.exe file built from LabVIEW and installing the CompactDAQ drivers.
It sounds doable, but I don't know if WindowsCE does support those .exe files or the hardware drivers or if there is something I can do to make it support them. I hope anyone has an idea about this and can help me.
Thank you
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I found the following statement at :
LabVIEW Touch Panel Module Getting Started Guide
http://zone.ni.com/devzone/cda/tut/p/id/5868
"The deployment procedures discussed previously for NI touch panels are not guaranteed to work for third party touch panels. If the use of a third-party touch panel is desired it must met certain requirements in order for the LabVIEW touch panel module to properly work with it.
The LabVIEW Touch Panel module only officially supports the two operating systems and two processors that the NI touch panel devices are based on. The operating systems supported are Windows CE 4.2/5.0 and Windows XP Embedded, while the supported processors include the StrongARM, XScale, and x86.
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In addition, specific Microsoft tools must be installed on the touch panel target in order for the LabVIEW Touch Panel application to function as expected. The following Microsoft eMbedded Visual Tools need to be installed:
Microsoft eMbedded Visual C++ 4.0
Microsoft eMbedded Visual C++ SP 4 or later
SDK for Windows Mobile 2003-based Pocket PCs
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Kareem W.
National Instruments
Web Product Manager

Can't use third-party earphones

Does anyone have problems using a third-party earphone? I tried using my Bose earphones and Sony earphones which are supposed to work with the I-Phone, but no luck. The earphones that came with the I-Phone works.

you most likely need the adapter.
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I want to interface third party/NI Webcam with Labview .

In my application i want to interface 3 NI / Third party WEBCAMS on TCP/IP with Labview 8.6 on host PC having Windows XP OS.
I am using Compact CRIO 9704 hardware with real time deployment module.
For interfacing webcams which drivers i required? OR Any deployment module is available in NI?
Please suggest.
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Sachin

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Can you use event case with labview real time?

I have a real time application I am putting together and until recentally have concentrated on getting the data acquisition working as expected.
I am using a PXI-8183 in a 1031 chassis.
I am now trying to add the functionality for setting up the system in the form of a GUI remote front panel that I connect to with a host laptop. I am connecting with the host as expected and it seems to be working well in that respect.
My problem is with event cases, operating in a while loop on the target. They just dont seem to want to trigger when i click on a button I have set an event for.
I have looked through the documentation and cant see any reference to issues with event cases on rt, but I feel I am missing something fundamental. Can anyone help?
Regards,
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look here maybe:
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[email protected]
Orlando,Fl
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How can I create a Report with LabView Real-Time?

With conventional LabView, I can create Reports in HTML, for example to document Errors.
I need this feature in LabView Realtime. Is it possible?

It is possible, but you got to put a name to the file with an extension of three letters. i.e. errors.htm
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