Payload Size

Whats the Maximum Payload Size XI can handle?
We are expecting one of our outbound IDOC to a size of 7.37 MB's and we are not sure Whether XI is capable of handling this size?

Whatever the source system, message processing is taking place in the Integration Engine. So payload size comes into picture there only. If once file is picked up, then messages will be in XI pipleine..So you can consider one of parameters.
Some real sceanrios about Huge file processing-
/people/sravya.talanki2/blog/2005/11/29/night-mare-processing-huge-files-in-sap-xi
/people/alessandro.guarneri/blog/2006/03/05/managing-bulky-flat-messages-with-sap-xi-tunneling-once-again--updated
Regards,
Moorthy

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I wanted to know, what is the maximum payload size that OSB can handle.
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Hey Everyone,
I wanted to know, what is the maximum payload size that OSB can handle.
The requirement is to pass XML files as input to OSB and insert the data of the XML files in the oracle staging tables. The OSB will host all the .jca,wsdl, xml, xml schema and other files required to perform the operation.
The hurdle is to understand, what is the maximum XML file size limit, that OSB can allow to pass through without breaking.
I did some test runs and got the following output,
Size of the XML file: OSB successfully read a file of size, 3176kb but failed for a file of size 3922kb, so the OSB breakpoint occurs somewhere between 3-4 MB, as per the test runs.
Range of number of Lines of XML: 102995 to 126787, since OSB was able to consume a file with lines (102995) and size 3176kb but broke for a file with number of lines (126787) and size 3922kb.
Request to please share your views on the test runs regarding the OSB breakpoint and also kindly share the results, if the same test has been performed at your end.
Thank you very much.

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hi can anybody tell me how to know the payload size of message?
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vvr murty

Hi,
To know the size of the input message , i hope we have one option , after copying the test payload from the SXMB_MONI into Message mapping test -- click on test
after come back to design tab in message mappign
click on left side root node and Press CTRL+SHIFT + mouse right click and click on trace -- you can see the size of the message payload.
In SXMB_MONI..
see the payload messges
also see the below link
/people/michal.krawczyk2/blog/2005/09/16/xi-how-to-test-your-mapping-in-real-life-scenarios
Regards
Chilla

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<?xml version="1.0" encoding="windows-1252" ?>
<xsl:stylesheet version="2.0" xmlns:xsl="http://www.w3.org/1999/XSL/Transform">
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How to measure the payload size handled by XI ?

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Hi,
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Thats a good one (question)... as far as I know it could be similar to the old AGP Aperture Size, but the amount of data doesn't correspond; megabytes vs. kilobytes.
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composite_instance ci
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I thought that the Whatis.com information complete enough, but I have had a little experience with Serial Data Transitions Protocols.
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Whatever the source system, message processing is taking place in the Integration Engine. So payload size comes into picture there only. If once file is picked up, then messages will be in XI pipleine..So you can consider one of parameters.
Some real sceanrios about Huge file processing-
/people/sravya.talanki2/blog/2005/11/29/night-mare-processing-huge-files-in-sap-xi
/people/alessandro.guarneri/blog/2006/03/05/managing-bulky-flat-messages-with-sap-xi-tunneling-once-again--updated
Regards,
Moorthy

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In integration engine configuration (SXMB_ADM), we can configure parameters like the HTTP_TIMEOUT etc.
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Hi Earlence,
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Proxy Maximum Payload size

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Hi,
I don't think there is any limitation of the size of payload.
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SAP XI sizing guide
https://www.sdn.sap.com/irj/servlet/prt/portal/prtroot/docs/library/uuid/72e2bb90-0301-0010-e883-c390ad8a975a
https://www.sdn.sap.com/irj/servlet/prt/portal/prtroot/docs/library/uuid/150ac490-0201-0010-0cb3-dee8d5262778
Check this -https://www.sdn.sap.com/irj/servlet/prt/portal/prtroot/docs/library/uuid/150ac490-0201-0010-0cb3-dee8d5262778
https://www.sdn.sap.com/irj/servlet/prt/portal/prtroot/docs/library/uuid/72e2bb90-0301-0010-e883-c390ad8a975a
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Hi XI Experts,
We runned in a PI 7.0 SP13 an IDOC To IDOc scenario with non conversion XML (Tunnelling with IDOC/XML_CONVERSION parameter set). Refer to Michal Krawczyk blog : /people/michal.krawczyk2/blog/2005/11/21/xi-idoc-to-idoc-tunneling--how-fast-and-easy-can-you-get
All seems good : payload in message monitoring is flagged as 'application/x-sap.idoc.bin' et scenario works fine.
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Q1 : in monitoring, payload document is displaied in right bottom window like XML representation....like an XML-converted document.
Q2 : value parameter 'SIZE_PAYLOAD' in message with non conversion XML is greater than....in conversion XML ?!?....
Thanks for yours responses.
Etienne

Hi
Please find here with you the clarification,
*Q1 : in monitoring, payload document is displaied in right bottom window like XML representation....like an XML-converted document.
the value is set to XML_CONVERSION parameter to value 2
a) 0 - Every IDoc is saved as a table; no IDoc-XML conversion
b) 1 - Every IDoc is converted to IDoc-XML
c) 2 - An IDoc is converted to IDoc-XML if requested by the service
Here the IDOC is internally be treated as IDOC-XML as you would be using the Business systems with SAP. And it depends upon the services.
Q2 : value parameter 'SIZE_PAYLOAD' in message with non conversion XML is greater than....in conversion XML ?!?....
The SIZE_PAYLOAD will be always more with non-conversion XML includes the header details also..(I am not sure with it).
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