1080/60p - Blu-ray help!

I realize this issue has been previously discussed in multiple threads, but I’m still having trouble understanding, and would greatly appreciate any help
The high definition Panasonic consumer camcorders (e.g. TM700, TM900, X900M) have five recording modes (not counting the recent addition of 3D and iFrame modes), specified as 1080/60p, and HA, HG, HX, and HE. The manual is not very informative, but specifically states that the last four are all 1080/60i, with varying bitrates, HA the highest and HE the lowest.
The consensus in this forum and elsewhere seems to be that if one wishes to output video to a Blu-ray disc, this is best done as 720/60p, as Blu-ray standards don’t support 1080/60p. I understand that part. But then it is said that therefore one shouldn’t bother recording in 1080/60p (except for archival or possible future purposes), but rather in, say, HA.
That’s the part I don’t understand. What is the advantage of converting 1080/60i to 720/60p, vs 1080/60p to 720/60p? Naively (and I am really naïve, I’ll admit), it would seem that progressive -> progressive would be more straightforward than interlaced -> progressive, and that therefore one should go ahead and record in 1080/60p. Am I wrong? Can someone explain it to me? Or point me to a thread where this issue is specifically discussed?
Thanks.

the X900M's HA through HE modes are not really 1080/60i, as the manual states, but 1080/30i.
Exactly. Technically speaking 60i means 60 interlaced frames per second, and there just is no such animal. What they mean when they say that is 60 interlaced fields per second, which is the equivalent to 30 interlaced frames. The issue is that saying "interlaced fields" is redundant, kind of like saying a female woman. Nobody says that. You say woman, or female, but not both. Same applies here. If you list it as interlaced, you don't also list the fields, always and only the frames.
what do I lose by letting Premiere Pro do the conversion?
The best way to know is to run some tests. If you can live with the converted video on Blu-ray, go for it. If you find any artifacts that are objectionable, it might not be a good idea to shoot 1080p/60. (The i or p should go before the slash, by the way, not after the frame rate. That's another thing a lot of camera makers get wrong.)
AME means the Adobe Media Encoder. It's the program that get's called up when you hit Queue from the export settings dialog.

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