180 days crossed for subcontracting

Hi,
I sent the material for subcontracting,also received the same material after the return date(ie.after 180 days).
Now the system is showing the error 'Cannot Reconcile : Crossed Return Date, please Reverse'. I know the std process that we have to reverse it and recredit after receiving the material.
My query is:
1. Is there any other solution than the above?
2. Suppose if I reverse and recredit,can I see the history for this in system.
Please suggest the solution.
Regards,
Goraksh.

Hello
There is no other solution other than re crediting. IF recreditted it will be document in the system.
Make sure that from next time that you make a document for receiving the material even if not received physically and provide it for subcontracting again.
Regards
Gregory Mathews

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[Completion, Reversal, and Recredit|http://help.sap.com/saphelp_erp60_sp/helpdata/en/09/ebf138cdd78a4be10000000a114084/frameset.htm]

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