2 clients in DEV

Most of the places, Why there are 2 clients in Dev?
I understand, one for ABAPers/technical and one for configurations/functional, if anyone can add to it or provide more details will be helpful.
Some places, required to move transports between these clients, others not.

Hi,
Currently where I am working they have 4 Dev clients, I know which is not relevant.
The main reason behind this is b'coz on 150-client the ABAPers will develop programs which are never client dependant. On 100-Client we are suppose to do Config only, on 120-Client we are doing raw testing of some test data, on 130-Client which is always a copy of Production system is used to test the new config by pulling the request from SCC1.
In this way, the config is not touched in any other clients as they are not modifiable & the new ammendments are tested properly.
Regards,
Prasad Lad

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However in real world, we have multiple clients on DEV and QAS systems.
Could you help explain how to extend the method in above blog to multiple DEV and QAS clients?
Thanks !

Hi Diana,
Please have a look at this thread :
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Stéphane.

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Ref: Re: 3rd party tech systems for multiple business systems...
I have a question regarding the avoidance of duplicated Configuration (Collaboration Profiles, Logical Routing & Collaboration Agreements) for different clients in the DEV/QA landscape.
As we know: many projects have multiple clients in DEV and QA. Here is an example landscape:
SXD_100 - Dev XI server
SED_100 - config dev
SED_200 - ABAP dev
SED_300 - unit test
SED_400 - sandbox
[ 1 technical system : 3 business systems ! ]
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[ 1 technical system : 1 business system ]
SXQ_100 - QA XI server
SEQ_100 - clean config QA
SEQ_200 - ABAP QA
SEQ_300 - data migration prep
SEQ_nnn - yada, yada...
[ 1 technical system : nnn business systems ! ]
LQA Legacy system
[ 1 technical system : 1 business system ]
The problem:
SED_400->LDEV is used for prototyping integration
SED_100->LDEV is used for config development
SED_200->LDEV is used for ABAP development
SED_300->LDEV is used for unit tests
Receiver Determination is able to look into the message for a dynamic receiver, but we are not able to have a sender like "SED*"
The question:
Do we really need multiple sets of configuration in the Integration Directory? Is there a way to re-use the configuration for SED_100->LDEV for the other development efforts?
Any feedback would be greatly appreciated.
Rgds,
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Hi Derek,
Since there can only one business system in SLD per client in SAP R/3.
e.g
SED_100 will have lets say BS_100_Dev
SED_200 and BS_200_Dev
In QA
SEQ_100 -> BS_100_QA
SEQ_200 -> BS_200_QA
It is not possible to configure the single scenario catering the Dynamic (multiple) sender agreement to Reciever.
But for QA you can use set transport target in SLD to reflect the BS_100_Dev -> BS_100_QA, where ever used.
This doesnot solve the problem of having dynamic sender service, it is just for information.
We also faced the same problem of testing a scenario from different clients of SAP :(.
Cheers,
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Clients in DEV system

Dear experts! We have standard 3-tiers SAP landscape: DEV- QAS - PRD systems in separate servers. My question is about DEV system clients. By now we have 3 clients in DEV system: 100 client (only Customizing, transport allowed, "Golden" client without any data),300 client (Sandbox) and 500 client (ABAP programming, some application data present, transport allowed). Now we're implementing Change Management with SAP Solution Manager. CHaRM supposes only one dev client with "transport allowed". So, we decided that our ABAP-programmers have to develop their programs in 100 client. But they are not very happy to develop programs in the client without any data! I 've read in SAP Help that DEV system has to consist of Golden(Customizing) client, Sandbox and Unit Test. But I can't find out the answer: where ABAP programmers have to work? Please, suggest me the right answer. Thanks.

If this modification is included in a transport request:
In STMS you will need to add the transport to the DEV buffer by opening up the DEV buffer first, then choosing Extras -> Other Requests -> Add (input the transport number that contains the client-specific changes)
Then highlight that transport in the buffer and hit the import button (little truck) and specify the client you need it to go to in the dialog box.
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Changing the ECC Client in DEV affects Transformation?

Hi,
I have a Clarification here.
We have 2 clients for ECC Dev, 300 & 100. We completed all our developments in BID linking to 300 client. Now, Customer says that he has more data in 100 client, so he wants to do testing of that data.
We have activated all the MD & TD Datasources in 300 Client and all the Transformation mappings are also pointing to 300.
How can this be achieved? Now, if suppose, Basis changes the Logical system to 100, do i have to do all the Activations in ECC again for 100? Do I have to create Transformations for all the Targets again?
Thanks for your time.
Regards,
Murali

Hi Murali,
Transformations are not source system dependent, when you say that you can see the name of source system in your transformation, where actually you can see that name? In the description or do you have source system as field in the header informaiton of Transformation?
You can get the difference, when you double click on your Data source you will see the Source system as separate field in the header information, but in case of transformation you will have only source or transformation and Target as important fields along with other fields.
Or are you saying that in the transformation mapping of fields you have source system ID assigned to target field source system ID?
And during transport source system changes are taken care by using transport connection, go to your RSA1 transaciton in the target system and go to Transport Connection-----> "Conversion" button on the tool bar here you can do the mapping of your source client and target client.
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Durgesh.

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Experts:
We have many DEV clients in our ECC landscape.
Some customizing needs to be imported into all DEV clients.
In order to use CHARM to do above import into different DEV clients, I want to define some logical components with only
2 systems, i.e. source DEV client and target DEV client (e.g. DEV100->DEV200). Then link this logical component to a
project.
In this way we will define many projects (logical componets, maintenance cycles) depending on how path combinations existing on the STMS setup.
Could you help verify whether this will work as expected? Because I did not configure 2 system tp for CHARM before therefore I am not sure.
Thanks a lot!

Hi,
you should take a look to those 2 threads especially the second one IF those other clients are USED FOR CREATING TR:
Re: Multiple clients in DEV and QA for CHARM setup
Change Request Management for multiple production clients
IF the other clients should just be synchronized with custo done in the first one then the lines above will help you.
Important fact "A Solman Project can have more than a logical component."
So for example in your case if you are trying to update DEV 200 with DEV 100 when importing TR to quality system (200 must be a kind of reference client for you),
you ll simply have to declare a Solman Project containing the core logical component (for ex: DEV 100 -> QUAL 100 -> PRD 100) AND another one that ll let you import in DEV 200 (DEV 100 -> DEV 200).
In your generated tasklist you'll then find DEV 200 under Target Systems node; like if it was a QUAL system AND you ll find tasks as "Import Transport Requests" available for DEV 200.
As a prerequesite you MUST declare DEV 200 in your logical component as a Target Role System and not as a Source Role System (like DEV 100) (Transaction SMSY). Otherwise Solman will understand that DEV 200 will be used only for creating and releasing TR and it will be considered like DEV 100
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Khalil

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Hi All,
This is our client landscape:
1 Dev-SolMan->For all development and quality systems(ECC 6.0, BI and EP).
1 PRD-SolMan->For all production systems(ECC 6.0, BI and EP).
Note: We have build only DEV-SolMan system as of now and we haven't done any configuration yet like either service desk or ChaRm.
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Do we need to have two seperate clients in DEV-Solman, one for all development systems and one for all quality systems? or Can we have a single client in DEV-Solman to handle all development and quality systems? What is the SAP recommented approach?
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Sanjai

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you even don't need separate Solution Manager systems to monitor DEV / QA and Prod. You could use one SolMan client to monitor and administrate all systems / clients.
Maybe it would be a good idea to create different Solution Landscapes, but this depends on your need.
Separate clients are no good option, because CHARM can only activated in on client. Also if you plan to activate charm, you need a solution that contains all systems in your transport landscape (DEV, QAnad Prod).
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in DEV client i have to copy controlling area or
i mantain controlling area which is preferable.

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Transfer Controlling area created request from golden client to Dev client.
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Pointing BW DEV Client to a another client in ECC

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I have a questions on BW & Basis.
We are having multiple clients in Ecc Development
ECC DEV i.e DE0 100 200 300.
Our BW Client is pointing to ECC DEV 200.
Now to ensure data integrity, We want to point the BW Client to DEV 300.
DEV 300 has only conversions. And the Data in 300 is more accurate.
And ofcourse, delete the previous master data and transactional data in BW and do the dataloads again in BW.
Can you advise:
If this will affect the present development happening in BW. Please note BW its the same client, but pointing to a different client in ECC within the Development Environment.

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We are using ECC 200 for BW Extractions. Now BW Dev is pointing to ECC 200 Datasources. But the chart of accounts is completly messed up. Refereshing the data in 200 from 300 will not help as the Chart of Accounts and other issues.
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Can any one point me to an SAP Note or document that recommends only one client per CRM system? I realize that there are possible issues with the CRM pricing and cross-client customizing downloads but these can usually be worked around. What other issues are a concern?
Any SAP document about this would be great.
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Tim

Tim,
Unless you are going to have multiple back ends or some business scenario that requires multiple clients in CRM Production, then don't do it in CRM Dev/QA.
The reason why don't do multiple clients in a CRM system that is connected to an ERP backend is the following:
CRM configuration is dependent on downloaded configuration from the ERP system.
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The whole gold client concept in CRM is honestly a bad idea when you have single ERP backend, because it just causes more work for people and it my opinion its a way of people trying to stay busy than add real value.
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Currently we transport all of over modification from DEV/110 client to QAS/200 client. we configured the TMS according it.
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Hi Nayeem,
Thanks for reply, i visited on your suggested pages but still not able to create another consolidation route.
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also we implemented CHARM on SOLMAN 7.1 SP8.
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Layout baisc settins like page format not allowedin dev 100 client.....!!!

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