24p Project

I've recently been experimenting with the 24p capabilities of an older Canon XL2. I've read up a little on pulldowns and the appropriate setup, but when it comes to actually working with the footage in Final Cut I'm lost. I've have a few test clips recorded at both 24p (3:2) and 24pA (2:3:3:2) in Standard Definition. From reading, I've understood that when pulling 24p into a 29.97 sequence it's best to record at (3:2) but for a 24p workflow (2:3:3:2) is the best option.
So, my clips are DV/DVCPRO and I've been pulling them into a DV-NTSC 24p (23.98) and DV-NTSC 24p Advanced Pulldown Removal anamorphic sequence. My first problem is that both my (3:2) and (2:3:3:2) clips are interpreted by Final Cut as 29.97 and the Field Dominance as "Lower (Even)." Second, when I drag the clip into the sequence it changes the field dominance from "None" to "Lower (Even)" which causes the footage to display as interlaced. I fix this by just changing it back (but why would it change and why aren't the clips progressive?).
I guess my question is: considering I only shoot for web what should I shoot my footage at and what type of sequence should I be working in? I like the look of 24p and would really like come up with a workflow that supports it.
I'm working in Final Cut Pro 6.0.6.
Any help is appreciated.
Jason

One last bit of information. Traditionally the Canon XL2 records to DV tape but the the deck has gone out and now we record to a hard drive that connects via firewire to the camera.

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