Assesment & Distribution
HI All
Currently my client using copa and cost center assesment now they are going to use Distribution is there any potential impact on co reports?
Thanks & Regards
Phaneendra
Hi Reddy,
Distribution / Assessment in Cost Center Accounting are the methods used to allocate the costs from one cost object to one/more cost objects and ultimately all the cost will reach Production Cost Centers so as to be included in Cost of Production.
Where as "Assessment to COPA" is used where some expenses are flowing to Cost Centers and they need not to be part of Cost of Production (that means, need not flow to Product Costing). For example, Marketing Expenses, Interest etc.
For such kind of expenses, you will creat Assessment Cycles in COPA where in receivers will be different characteristics.
Pls revert back if my answer is not clear...
Srikanth Munnlauri
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Difference between Assesment,Distribution and allocation
HI,
What is the difference between Assesment, Distribution and allocation.
Thanks in Advance,
Regards,
ChanduHi,
1) Allocations: Allocations enable you to periodically allocate amounts and quantities from sender objects to receiver objects. The two main types of allocations are assessment and distribution. You can allocate both plan and actual data. You perform the allocation using the allocation cycle function. You use allocation rules to determine how amounts and quantities should be allocated from sender object to receiver object.
To effect the allocation, you have to make various settings in Customizing. You make the settings in Customizing under Financial Accounting (New) -> General Ledger Accounting (New) -> Periodic Processing -> Allocation.
2) Assessment: A business activity used to allocate quantities and amounts (actual and plan values) from one sender object to one or more receiver objects.
The assessment process posts the sender amounts to an assessment account. The SAP system then allocates the amounts from the assessment account to the receiver(s) - not directly from the original sender account.
The assessment works in the same way as the distribution. However, with the assessment, the debit and credit postings do not occur under the original account or the original cost element but under an assessment account or an assessment cost element. The information of the original account/original cost element are lost.
3) Distribution: A business activity used to allocate quantities and amounts (actual and plan values) from one sender object to one or more receiver objects.
The distribution process distributes the balance(s) from the original sender(s) to the receivers. The original sender account is credited and the original receiver account is debited by the distribution. The debit and credit postings for the distribution occur under the original account/original cost element with which the amounts and quantities are posted at the sender. The information of the original account/original cost element remains intact.
I hope it will help.
If helpful, please assign points.
Regards,
Manju -
Assessment,Distribution-Control Message
Dear Gurus,
This is Ram chartered Accountant. I am newly joined as Sap Consultant.
I knew normal Costing Overhead allocation, assesment, distribution but i am unable to understand that one from sap point of view.
Can any body explain or provide material regarding assessment,distribution,allocation from the point of configuration with practical examples
Thanks in advance
RamDear Vamsi,
Thanks for your information. But still i have some doubts regarding when we should we define statistical key figure and when we should define activities?
What is the difference between these two items?
Is there any situation we should use both statistical key figure and activity allocation?
What all screens required to configure before running assessment and distribution cycles.
I did one assesment cycle but its giving error. I will explain what assessment cycle i did
cost centre Assemble amount i want share between Machine1 and machine 2. For that i created Stastical key using no of employees
I created the cycle using statistical key i.,e no of employees
when i run the cycle it is showing the error
"Sender base in period 001 is 0; therefore, no allocation is possible
Sender base in period 002 is 0; therefore, no allocation is possible"
LIke this 12 messages are coming
Thank in advance -
Hi,
What is the meaning and difference between Assessment & Distribution.
Its Urgent.
Thanks in Advance
Yours
S.VINAYA KUMARhi vinay,
3 Differences between Assessment & Distribution:-
a. Performance of System - Assessment takes lesser time.
b. Visibility of Sender - In assessment, visibility is lost.
c. Primary Cost Elements - Distribution is used only for Primary Cost Elements, whereas Assessment is used for Primary & Secondary Cost elements.
Activity Types & Statistical Key Figures can be related to as base in Assessment/Distribution between senders and receivers.
Assesment & Distribution
Bouth of them are used to transfer the cost form one cost center/object to another.
Assesment
Using of this you can transfer the cost form one cost center/object to another by Secondary Cost Element.
Steps
1. Goto KSU1
2. In the first step create cycle and date
3. in the second step give text
4. in third step give segment and way of assessment and assessment cost element under that give from which cost center and from which primary cost element you want to transfer the cost under give to which cost centers you want to transfer the cost.
5. mention your versa
6. in fourth step give amount are %
7. save all
8. now go to KSU5 and exquet it
Distribution
Using of this you can transfer the cost from one cost center/object to another by Primary Cost Element.
Steps
9. Goto KSV1
10. In the first step create cycle and date
11. in the second step give text
12. in third step give segment and way of assessment under that give from which cost center and from which primary cost element you want to transfer the cost under give to which cost centers you want to transfer the cost.
13. in fourth step give amount are %
14. save all
15. now go to KSV5 and exquit it
The Basic difference between an Assessment and Distribution is:
1.Assessment is done for Secondary Cost elements and Distribution is done for Primary Cost elements.
2.When you do a Assessment it creates a seperate Line Item, where as Distribution does not create a seperate Line Item. For Exp: when a Cost say salaries is transferred from X to y,when doing an Assessment, it creates a seperate Line Item in the salaries a/c of Y clearly showing the amount transferred from X, but in case of distribution, it just merges the expenses.
3.KSV5 is used for Cost Center Distribution and KSU5 for Assessment Cycle. 4KE2 is for Distribution Cycle for Profit Center and 3KE1 is for Assessment Cycle.
Hope this will give you a clear picture.
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_erp2005vp/helpdata/en/4c/dca9ed1c6611d2a5ad0000e839d005/frameset.htm
Re: What is Actual Overhead Assessment?
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Ranjit -
Interview Questions for FI- General Ledger and Special Purpose Ledger
Hi Experts,
Can you guys provide me interview questions for
1) FI-SPL (Special Purpose Ledger)
2) FI-GL (General Ledger)
3) COPA
4) Cost Center Accounting
Help in this regard is highly appreciated. If you have any Interview Questions documents, please email it to [email protected]
Thanks
Rajanikanth.I have some cost center qns
How is cost center realted to profit center?
What is a cost element group?
What is a cost center group?
What is the difference between Assesment & Distribution?
What is a activity type?
Award points if helpful -
Hi all ,
I have a requirement to Post Cash Journal Document using FBCJ tcode.
Is it possible multiple line items debit & single line item credit and different cost centers and different profit centers
for exp:
pk GL a/c description amount cost center profit center
40 400101 telephone exp 500 1403 P 1000
40 400101 telephone exp 100 1404 P 2000
50 200100 cash in hand 600-
This is My requirement is it possible in fbcj
Please suggest me.ASAP.
Regards
Naresh.Hi,
This you can do it in two ways:
1. Make three header under top level....one Product A, 2nd Product B ( as Billing element) and third as Common expense ( only cost). Now 1st & 2 nd WBS, you have to have sales order linking with individual lint item, for third you will accumulate all the common expense till the period end then make a reposting of the same in desired proportion to both products WBS hierarchy
(This is if you want to have a track on the common expense as well.......like planning, budgeting & control)
After this reposting, run RA for individual billing element and hence you will all the complement detailing and control over Revenue and expense with respect to Product A and Product B individually.
2. If you don't want to maintain that kind of detailing the common expense and keep track of it through project, then have cost centers accordingly and make an assesment/ distribution with respect to expenses accumulated at those cost centers for the period to the respective WBS under each product. Then execute the period end processes for the project.
Or
You can try with have two more line items in the costing sheet as an overhead against common expenses with respect each product.
I hope this should help you.
Regards
Avisek Bhardwaj -
Multiple Line Items - PS/SD/ PP - Scenario
Dear Experts,
Please advise on the following:-
There are two products, like Product A - 2 Nos, and Product B - 3 Nos, will be manufactured for a project order.
Finished product will be attached in the project structure and will be manufactured in house through PP module. Material planning will be done thorugh project MRP.
A sales order will be created with two line items, Product A - 2 Nos, and Product B - 3 Nos.
Root level WBS element will be linked with sales order header level for milestone billing.
Is it possible to see the cost and selling price comparison of product A and product B through this settings, as they are different type of product and their selling price are different.
Can the system apportioned the cost of sales based on the selling price of the product A and Product B.
Looking forward to hearing from you.
Thanking you.
Best Regards,
Abdul.Hi,
This you can do it in two ways:
1. Make three header under top level....one Product A, 2nd Product B ( as Billing element) and third as Common expense ( only cost). Now 1st & 2 nd WBS, you have to have sales order linking with individual lint item, for third you will accumulate all the common expense till the period end then make a reposting of the same in desired proportion to both products WBS hierarchy
(This is if you want to have a track on the common expense as well.......like planning, budgeting & control)
After this reposting, run RA for individual billing element and hence you will all the complement detailing and control over Revenue and expense with respect to Product A and Product B individually.
2. If you don't want to maintain that kind of detailing the common expense and keep track of it through project, then have cost centers accordingly and make an assesment/ distribution with respect to expenses accumulated at those cost centers for the period to the respective WBS under each product. Then execute the period end processes for the project.
Or
You can try with have two more line items in the costing sheet as an overhead against common expenses with respect each product.
I hope this should help you.
Regards
Avisek Bhardwaj -
SAP - Cost Center Planning - Version 1
Dear All
Recently we have started to use the cost center planning through KP16 under plan version -1
However we are unable to down the plan data in excel with a cost center break up through KSBP report.
We are not using any special ledger
System is showing the following error
No plan cost line items recorded.
Message no. KB419
Diagnosis
No planned costs line items are written to controlling area DXES in version 1 of fiscal year 2009.
System Response
The report cannot be executed.
Procedure
Check your selection criteria or activate the line item update function.
Note
The line item update function is controlled depending on the application:
Cost center planning
Here you can define the update for each version and fiscal year. You can maintain the corresponding indicator (integrated planning) in the version maintenance (settings for the fiscal year).
This indicator you can either
set manually when creating a version or
set later via the menu sequence "Planning -> Planning aids -> Integration active".
Regards
AnilkumarHi,
The impact is that the planning is stored also as line items and the planning is integrated between the CO-PCA components. In SAP words:
- All available plan records for controlling area/version/fiscal year are posted as line items. The R/3 System posts these line items to the AC interface.
- Any existing line items in the plan allocation transactions (plan assesment, distribution, or accrual calculation) are posted to the AC interface as well and made available to other components.
Regards,
Eli -
Parallel Ledger Vs. Special purpose Ledger
HI All
Can you please help me with the following.
I am doing an analysis comparison between Parallel ledger and Special purpose ledger. specificaly to the following requirements.
Month end currency translation by group account, company, trading partner, profit centre, partner profit centre, FI transaction type and FI segment with full audit trail; .
Translation of certain accounts using a monthly average rate, others using a spot rate and some using an historical rate (the translation to group currency needs to be entered by account i.e. there is no one historical rate, the rate will depend on the account);
Accounts translated at the monthly average need to be translated based on periodic movement and NOT the cumulative balance i.e. Cumulative at the end of period 3 = [(opening balance) + (movement for period 1 x monthly average for period 1) + (movement for period 2 x monthly average for period 2) + (movement for period 3 x monthly average for period 3)]. NOT: [(cumulative balance at the end of period 3 X monthly average for period 3)] which is incorrect;
If possible (as is possible in BPC):
For accounts translated at period end spot rate: separation of the currency translation movement on the account balance into transaction types for:
Currency translation difference on retranslation of the opening balance;
Currency translation difference on the movement for the period.
The ability to define different rates per account, transaction type combination (i.e. the balance on the depreciation transaction type of the fixed asset accumulated depreciation reconciliation account should be translated at an average rate while the account balance as a whole is translated to the period end spot u2013 the difference between the translation of the depreciation movement at average and spot rates should be posted to a separate transaction type as u201CCurrency translation differences on the movement for the periodu201D;
Posting of the balance sheet balancing difference on the translation to a u201Ccurrency translation adjustment accountu201D in the balance sheet.I have some cost center qns
How is cost center realted to profit center?
What is a cost element group?
What is a cost center group?
What is the difference between Assesment & Distribution?
What is a activity type?
Award points if helpful -
Actual Distribution and Assesment Cycle
Dear All,
Please let me know how to create distribution and assesment cycle with transport request, please let me know any Snotes need to apply for create in non editable scenariou.Dear All,
Please let me know how to create distribution and assesment cycle without transport request, please let me know any Snotes need to apply for create in non editable scenariou.
please note i want to create cycle in the non editable scenario without transport request.
Regards,
Rama Mohan -
Dear All,
Can any one tell me, what is the exact difference between Assesment and Distribution. only primary costs can be transffered through Distribution.Primary and secondary cost elements can be transferred through Assesment. Then why distribution.
Regards,
Suresh Patipati.Hi,
Assessment is one of the method used in automatic planning of secondary costs in cost center accounting. This method is used to allocate cost from one cost center to another cost centre.The original costs , even if they are primary, from the cost centers are regrouped and reclassified as secondary while allocating the same to other cost center. For e.g.. fax expenses , postage are collecting primary costs into a cost center called xxxx, now group these assets for assessment using a secondary cost element to receiver cost centers YYYY& ZZZZZ.
There is a need to define assessment rule for effecting assessment.
Distribution helps in planning primary costs from one cost center to another.The cost center from where the cost is distributed is called sender and the other cost center to which the cost is distributed is called receiver.Only planned and actual cost can be distributed.
Regards,
Nitin aggarwal
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Assesment and Distribution cycles
Is there any configuration required for assesment and distribution cycle ?
HI,
the cycle definition itself needs to be done.
In SAP standard this is a customizing transaction (transport request,...) but it can be set as "current setting" thus you can make your cycle definition only in prod. client.
Check SAPNET note 135028 + related notes for details.
Best regards, Christian -
Distribution/assesement/sweep
sender
60325 ntfs(group of 4 cost centers)
receiver
62500 50
i am trying to sweep not distribute but whats its doing is putting all the money to 60325-50 whereas it should do it to 62500-50.
when i say sweep it means that i am transferring( reclassifying) amount to the account and not distributing it.
for ex.
60325 -ntfs(4cost centers) amt- 5000$
expected output
62500-50 amt 5000$
60325----- nil
I know distribution does this because i had dont it for a prev.cycle where the scenario was the same except there was no cost element involved in the receiver end.
I am not sure if this is how it should be done but if you guys know something let me know how you would handle the problem.
thanks.Hello nancy,
Its doing what distribution is supposed to do....Allocate from ntfs group to 50 (on same cost element)
You cannot use a diff cost element in distribution. ....
You need to use Assessments for that......
About sweeping I dont have any Idea. I think u r transferring the amount to the account and not distributing it right..?
I think 62500 is a secondary cost element..If its not then you cannot do this using distribution/ assessment. .. If it is a secondary cost element is used only for this sweep? If yes you can define it as an assessment cost element (categroy 42). Then use Assessment instead of distribution. ....In cycle definition give yourAssessment Cost Element as 62500. Rest all same as distribution. Then it will post to 62500. All this based on the assumption .
Hope it will help u Nancy.
Assign points if usefull.
Regards,
shashikanth -
Unable to create the Distribution cycle with WBS Element as Receiver
Dear SAP Friends,
I am creating the Distribution cycle in KSV1, Sender is Cost center and Receiver is WBS element.
Once i select Receiving tracing factor Tab i am getting the error like :
Message :
No valid receiver entries exist
Message no. GA015
Diagnosis
You have established a group of receivers by entering either intervals or groups in the selection criteria. However, in the master data check, the SAP System cound not find any valid receivers in your selected group.
System Response
The single value entry screen is not shown.
Procedure
Check your entries for the selection criteria. It is possible that the master data is locked. You can get more info be choosing "Error log...".
Please let me know how we need to create the Assesment cycle for WBS elements as receivers and Cost centre as Sender.
Let me know in this Regard ASAP..
Regards,
AnandWe are encountering a simiilar situation related to Cost Center Assessements to a Work Order (Order Category 30) I'm thinking the promble is related to a similar situation that you had with a WBS.
Thanks,
Lou -
Creation & Execution of Assement Cycles & Distribution cycle
HI
what is T.code for Creation of Disribution cycle and Execution
What is T.code for Creation of Assesment cycle and Execution of this Cycle
Regards
sureHi,
Cost Center Distribution cycle crreation Tr. Code KSV1 and Tr. code execution KSV5
Cost Center Assessment cycle creation Tr. code KSU1 and Tr. code executation KSU5.
Trust this helps much!
Cheers!
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