Assessable value in subcontracting challan

Hi
I am creating a subcontracting challan. The child material is A . While creating challan for material document (mvt type 541 and material A)
its is giving a warning message ''No assessable value for material A''.
Will this cretae any errors?
regards
N Banu

Hi,
For every excisable material (whether you procure, manufacture or sale) has to be declared as excisable material in table J1ID with appropriate chapter ID, assessable value & CENVAT declaration.
When you send the excisable material to the sub-contractor the material needs to be returned back to your plant within 180 days. If this is not done, then you will have to pay back the excise duty on the material with base value as assessable value. Hence it is required to maintain the assessable value.
Hope this clears your query.
Regards,
Prashant

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[http://help.sap.com/saphelp_470/helpdata/ru/1c/d6a1d82b5611d4ae1700105a16d13d/content.htm]
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ARE1     EXPORT PROCESSING UNDER ARE1
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__Reversal & Recredit of subcontracting challan.__
Step1- Created sc po
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Step3- Created sc challan (J1IF01)
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