Assignment of Single sales office to multiple sales organizations

Hi,
We have a scenario where we need to Assign single sales office to multiple sales organizations in CRM. When i am trying to assign sales office to more than one sales organization 1st assignment between Sales office and Sales Org is getting deleted, and only the 2nd assignment is available.
Please let me know how to overcome this problem.
Regards
Raju

Hi
1. There are 2 version in CRM Org Model.
a) SBIV (Standard Backend Integration Version)
b) EBIV (Enhanced Backend Integration Version)
2. EBIV is used to handle multiple assignments in CRM system.
3. As you know we have 3 Org Units as far as Sales is concerned i.e. Sales Org, Sales Office, Sales Group.
4. In R/3 there is a standard way to maintain multiple assignments among these org units.
Ex: Sales Group 'X' works (assigned) for 2 Sales Offices 'North' and 'South' simultaneously.
5. But in CRM this assignment is not as common as in R/3 and is not supported thru SBIV.
6. If you would like to have these multiple assignments made in R/3 available in CRM as well you may want to go thru EBIV.
7. Once you run EBIV you cannot go back to SBIV.
8. In EBIV divisions and distribution channels can only be assigned to sales units (sales organizations, sales offices, and sales groups). If they are assigned to any other neutral Org Units (Org Units without any Org Attributes), those assignments would be deleted once you shift from SBIV to EBIV.
Hope this helps.
Regards
Manohar

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Pros and Cons for single sales organization and multiple sales organization

Hi!
Does anybody have a good data of Pros and Cons for Single Sales Organization vs. Multiple Sales Organization.
Thank you!

Hi,
Actuall it all depends on the business process.
I will explain the answer to you through a practical example
like Ford, it has sales and services all across globe.
It is not advisable to manage all of its activities under only one sales organization, say Ford Inc.
So what it does is de-centralises the whole process according to the country, region so that the whole process is divided and hence can be managed more effeciently.
Hope this helps you in understanding the basics.
One sales org always provides you with very less data to update and maintain, while many sales org makes the scenario more complex.
One sales org always gives you the flexibility to bring any changes to the current scenario, while in multiple sales org to bring a change its a tiresome job.
These are some of the advantages and disadvantages of one to many sales org.
regards,
Siddharth.

Assignment of single Sales group to multiple Sales offices not possible

Hi all,
We need to assign single sales group to multiple sales offices in CRM. When we try to assign a Sales group to more than one Sales office the first assignment between Sales group and Sales office is removed. Only the new assignment is available.
Instead of having two assignments I still only get one.
First I transfered the ECC organization as Standard backend integration. When I realize I needed multiple backend assignment I ran the Conversion to multiple assignments. However, I am not able to realize multiple assignments.
Is it not possible to realize multiple assignment if you first transfered the ECC organization as standard (single) assignment?
Please let me know how to overcome this problem.
Regards
Anders

Hello Anders,
Starting CRM 4.0 multiple hierarchy with this enhanced org data model
works the following way:
- 1 R/3 org data mapped to ONLY 1 CRM org unit.
- multiple hierarchy (1 sales office assigned to several sales org,
1 sales group assigned to several sales office) is managed in the detail
of the org unit with tab Function and with sub tab sales office
and sales group.
For example if you have following R/3 org structure:
Sales org SOr1
_ Sales office Sof1
_ Sales Group Sg1
_ Sales office Sof2
_ Sales Group Sg1
Sales org SOr2
_ Sales office Sof1
In PPOMA_CRM you have to do the following:
For the R3 mapping :
Sor1 mapped to org unit 50000001
Sor2 mapped to org unit 50000002
Sof1 mapped to org unit 50000003
Sof2 mapped to org unit 50000004
Sg1 mapped tp org unit 50000005
And for the multiple assignment
- For sales org 50000001 and 50000002 you just have to maintain in tab
function, sub tab Sales org the Distribution channel division values
- For sales office 50000003 in sub tab Sales office the assignment to
sales org Sor1 and Sor2
- For sales office 50000004 in sub tab Sales office the assignment to
sales org Sor1
- For sales group 50000005 in sub tab sales group the assignment to
sales office Sof1 and Sof2.
If you have different division distribution channel on sales office sale
group compared to the sales org you can maintain manually the values.
Or if is it always the same values you can use * value for distribution
channel division (in that case please read carefully notes
691015 and 735020 if needed)
In addition regarding report CRMC_R3_ORG_GENERATE I would like to
clarify that this report can only be used for initial download, as
written in the customzing documentation of this report (spro-CRM -
master data - org management - data transfer - Copy SAP R/3 sales
structure ) it can only be executed once and so following org
modifications have to be done manually in PPOMA_CRM.
So for this report the correct way to use it is to create all the R/3
org data in 1 shot.
If only 1 R/3 org data is already mapped to a CRM org unit in ppoma_Crm
you will have red light and so it will be impossible to create all
dependent org data.
Hoping i have been able to clarify how it works.
Regards, Gerhard

Pricing procedure assignment to sales organization

Hi Expert,
One particular pricing procedure is defined and assigned to particular sales organization in table T683V. I have assigned same pricing procedure to another sales organization which is now reflecting in that table. When i am trying to create sales order for newly assigned sales organization, it is not showing condition types for that particular sales order in conditions tab for that particular material. Can you please tell me why this is happening & what would be the solution for this ?
Thanks.

Hi,
In Sales & Distribution - Basic Functions - Pricing - Pricing Control - Define and Assign Pricing procedure,you can define your pricing procedure to Sales Organization,Distribution Channel and division level.You can't define on sales organization only.
This question you should post in SD forum.
BR,
Praveen

Assign sales organization data in product in CRM

Hi Gurus,
I need to assign/ delete the sales organization in a product which has been downloaded from ECC in CRM. It seems that we cannot change the data in "sales and distribution tab" unless making the SET TYPE editable.
Only 3 SET TYPES in the "sales and distribution" tab can be made editable by adding them in the table CRMC_PRD_CHANGE.
CRMM_PR_SALESA, CRMM_PR_SALESG and CRMM_PR_SALESG
Does someone have any idea of how to add a sales organization in a product that comes from ECC in CRM ??
Thanks for your help,
Jeff

Hi Jeff,
I am afraid whether one will be able to edit a product which is downloaded from R/3 to CRM. All the changes should be done in ERP and the same will be downloaded via delta download.
Please have a look into the following thread:
Products in CRM doesn't have Sales and Distribution Data
It might help you. Hope this helps!
Regards,
Chethan

Re: Create new sales organization

Hi Good evening to you all,
I have created a new sales organization and did the following SD related assignments and settings manually. Can some one tell me if any other assignments and settings should be done ? please advice
1. Assign sales organization to company code :
2. Assign distribution channels to sales organization
3. Assign Divisions to sales organization :
4. Setup sales areas for sales organization :
5. assignment of sales offices to sales areas
6. assignment of sales groups to sales office :
7. assignment of sales organization & distribution channel to plant:
8.u2018combine sales organizationsu2019
9. u2018Combine distribution Channels:
10. combine divisions:
11. assign sales areas to sales document types:
12. pricing procedure determination for sales organization :
13. GL account assignments for sales organization :
Regards,
Chandu

Hi Chandu
Going by the initial post you have done everything for smooth SD flow of your new sales org
But the most important thing missing is
1. VOR1 Define common distribution channel
2. VOR2 Define common divisions
Img-sd-master data---define common distribution channel T codeVOR1
Img-sd-master data---define common divisions T codeVOR2
See without doing this you will not be able to create a CMR for the new sales area or neew sales org
This is very important SD settings
This was pointed out by Mr.Amit but the t code was wrong
V/N6 also is reqd if you are going to have free goods determination in your new sales org
Regards
Raja

Sales organization for two different plant

Hi,
We have one company code , one plant as mfg.   and one sales organization it is in live we do all activity in those plant, now in development along with this plant we have created one new depot plant and assign to exsting compnay code, we in this company we want to do both mfg as welll as trading activity now we have two Plant so it is necessary to create two differenmt sales organization for this,
or with single sales organization we can do both the activity , in case of sales order how we can give the ref. of Plant   thorugh which we want to dispatch the materils, we have material , vendor , custom commom in both plant.
regards,
zafar

Hi Zafar,
You dont have to create two sales organization for mfg plant and trading plant. With one Sales organization you can do all the activaity.
Ie sales from mfg plant, sales from trading plant, Stock transfer from one plant to another plant. all the sales related transaction you can cover with one sales organization.,
Like different vendor, material and custom can be handle with one sales organization.
In terms of report SD will have all kings of report from which you can easily identify from this plant how much sales has been done. All the details you can get it.
Try with one sales org only, if any problem ur facing then let me know.
Regards,
Nagesh
Edited by: Nagesh MS on Dec 7, 2011 11:37 AM

Explain about sales organization and its functionalities

Explain about sales organization and its functionalities

Hi Suresh,

Definition: The sales organization is an organizational unit within logistics, that structures the company according to its sales requirements.
Use: A sales organization is responsible for the sale and distribution of goods and services.
It represents the selling unit as a legal entity. It is responsible for product guarantees and other rights to recourse, for example. Regional subdividing of the market can also be carried out with the help of sales organizations. Each business transaction is processed within a sales organization.
The sales organization must be specified in all sales documents. It is therefore available for all basic functions of SD (such as pricing, availability, etc.).
Structure: A sales organization can be subdivided into several distribution chains which determine the responsibility for a distribution channel.
Several divisions can be assigned to a sales organization which is responsible for the materials or services provided.
A sales area determines which distribution channel can be used to sell the products from one division in a sales organization.
Integration: Each sales organization is assigned exactly one company code for which you enter all accounting details of the sales organization.
A distribution chain can be active for several plants and the plants can be assigned to different company codes. If the sales organization and plant are assigned to different company codes, an internal billing document is sent between the company codes before the sales transactions are entered for accounting purposes.
Thanks,
Vinay

Reg: sales organization

Hi all,
           i have two queries
1) what is the use of maintaining more than one sales organization in only domestic sale.?
2) can we interchange the sales organization , for example
         2000               is for Andhra pradesh
         3000                is for Maharasthra
can we change like 2000 for maharasthra and vice versa...
regards,
ram

Hi Ramprasad
First you need to understand the real meaning of sales organization and its responsibilities and controls
Sales org creation is not country dependent
It is the organizationals choice to have as many as sales orgs they want
Say a corporate company operating in India can go ahead with only one sales org for carrying out entire sales activities or can go with 4 sales organizations say north , south,east and west or even more if they wish so
but to keep minimum is ideal
All master datas like VOR1 and VOR2 settings are defined for or under a single sales organization
Sales organization is responsible for selling goods,carrying out sales strategies etc
India being vast country with so much cultural differences and if you have single sales organization the strategies will not work everywhere
So it is ideal to have more so that better planning can be done depending on the region
What do you mean by interchanging sales org?
Not possible
As per standard SAP definitions
sales organization is an organizational unit in logistics which groups the enterprise according to the requirements of sales and distribution
sales organization is responsible for distributing goods and services and also liable for product liability and responsible for the customer's right of recourse
sales organization is also used to take for example a regional,national or international subdivision of the market into account
A sales organization is uniquely asssigned to a company code
You can maintain your own master data for a sales org
In sales statistics sales organization is the highest summation level
All items in a SD document say in order or delivery or bill they belong to a sales org
Regards
raja

Scenario regarding Sales Organization, distribution channel

Dear Experts,
I am doing
1. Simple Domestic sales from manufacturing plant
2. Depot Sales: In which, Stock transfer between two plants i.e. from Manufacturing Plant to Depot and sales from depot
3. Exports: Sales to other country.
Now, my confusion is, whether i can use a single sales organization and three distribution channel for all these three scenarios or do i have to create three different sales organizations along with three distribution channels and do the processes?
My anather question is, if i want to do depot sales, then it is possible to have one manufacturing plant and two storage locations at different places. i.e. issuing storage locatin and receiving storage location.
Is it possible to sell goods from receiving storage location to end customer?
What will be simple organizational structure i can make to acheive these things?
I would be very helpful if you can give me your expert inputs on the scenario. I am trying to make the simple organization structure with less complications for my client.
Thank you
Amit

Hi
As suggested the best choice will be to go ahead with one sales organization for all these scenario. Since in domestic sale / export sale the only difference will be the Pricing configuration and that can be easily mapped using the either a distribution channel / or a customer pricing procedure.
Now when it comes to handling the sales scenario - there is a option to go ahead with two or even three distribution channel.
1. Domestic Sale (Can handle Both Depot sale and Manufacturing same- seperate dist.channel will help to pick right pricing procedure
2. Export Sale - This distribution channel will help you to pickup export pricing procedure (Also if not then you can have customer pricing procedure to pick the export pricing )
3. Stock Transfer (Can be done through domestic sale also)- I hope a seperate pricing procedure will be created for STO. So from the reporting purpose a seperate dist.channel can help you to have more clarity to the user - Again will help you to pick a different pricing procedure (A seperate Cust.pr.Pro can also be used to pick a different pricing procedure)
4. If you are using DEPOT sale with Excisable mean you need to maintain RG23D register. Also you need to generate Excise Invoice, challan . If you use transfer process of storage location to storage locationthen there are concerns as how you will generate challan and Invoice. OR if it is a DEPOT to DEPOT Transfer then also you need supporting document. please do check as whether you need the required output or not.
So Depot need to be maintained a PLANT in SAP with a check box as saying Excisable and relevant for RG23D. and a Normal Sales process will follow. Reporting can be done of PLANT as a primary key.
Distribution channel will be a simpler way of Differentiation - and for reporting purpose.
Thanks
RB
Edited by: RBhardwaj on Feb 16, 2012 6:54 PM

Benefit or drawback to define plant at sales organization level

at the time of creation of sales organization i have define plant at sales organization level.
there is another setup in IMG and that is "Assign sales organization - Distribution Channel - Plant".
what is the purpose of plant at sales organization level and what impact will occure if i assign plant on sales organization -distribution channel - Plant level. ?
kindly assit me that what will be better should i define plant at the time of creation sales organization of should i use IMG setup "Assign sales organization - Distribution Channel - Plant". ?

Hi there,
When maintaining the material master, you extend the material to the sales org / distribution channel. If plant is not assigned to sales org / distribution channel, system will not allow you to extend the material to the sales org. That is the implication here.
Also when raising the sales org, you raise it with respect to a sales area in VA01. When you enter a material in Va01, system will throw an error that plant isnot defined for the sales area is it is not assigned to sales org / dist channel.
When defining the sales org you assign a plant there meaning that the sales org can be fulfilled by that plant. You can ofourse change the plant proposed by the system. Again when you change the plant, system will throw an error if it is not assigned to sales org / dist channel.
Regards,
Sivanand

Sales Organization merger

Hello All,
I would like to merge Sales org 0410 and 0420 together and will handle through single sales organization only.
I know that each sales org have their own Company code.
Could anyone please tell me how can I proceed for this requirement.
User has created a huge document for various module of each sales organization.
This will help me if I will get relevant information in Step.
Regards
Ajit

Earlier both the Sales Organizations 0410 and 0420 were active & business has created Document in respective Sales Orgns?? Correct.
Now in future you want to have all the Transactions in only single Sales Organizaton.
But the Document Created in past are legally acceptable documents & Sales Organizations cannot be merged with effect from past date. Means the document created in past will remain under respective Sales Organizations & cannot be changed.
If in future you want only one Sales Organization, say you have to close 0420 Sales Orgn & only keep 0410 as active Sales Orgn.
Now close all the open documents in 0420 (Open Orders, Deliveries, Invoice & other docs). Once everything is closed, assgn the Organizations elements (divisions, distn channels, etc of 0420 to 0410) & instruct the users to use 0410 henceforth.
If required delete the assignments of 0420, but it is not advisable.
Hope this helps,
Thanks,
JIgnesh Mehta

Multiple sales groups in single salse office

Hi ,
Can we maintain multiple salses groups for single sales office in sap crm

Hi
No we can not maintain multiple sales groups for a single sales office in sap crm until and unless we convert org model to represent multiple assignments in SAP ECC or R/3.
Path for maintaining this setting is
spro>crm>org management>data transfer> convert org model to represent multiple assignments of SAP ECc.
or
Transaction code- CRMSC_SWITCH_ORGMODEL
Reward points if it helps
Regards
Nadh.

Multiple pricing procedure in single sales order

Hi Gurrus,
i have come across in a scenarion where i need to have multiple pricing procedures in a single sales order.
Does SAP support this functionality ?
actually i am using a free goods, so for the trade item i want it to be charged at "SALES GL-Code" and for free good item i want it be be charge at "BONUS GL-Code".
can anyone help me out that how can i handle this situation.

Dear Shadab Ali ,
We can have only one pricing procedure .
But the pricing procedure determined in the sales order can be changed to a different pricing procedure in billing (assigning pricing procedure to billing type)
In your scenario, it is better you use 2 document type (one for trade and one for free )
This way you can trigger two pricing procedure based on the scenario.
Thanks & Regards,
Hegal K Charles

Assign as many sales groups as desired to the sales offices in CRM

Dear guru!
Can I assign as many sales groups as desired to the sales offices in CRM? Any one sales group can belong to several sales offices in ERPu2026
In this moment I have next error:
Attribute R3_SA_GRP with value 337already assigned to O 50000935.
Please help me!
Best regards,
Andrey.
Edited by: Andrey Kachko on Aug 27, 2008 11:19 AM

CRM has the possibility to change the std. assignment which is limiting you right now into a multiple assignment. You can find this functionality in spro->crm->master data->organisational management->data transfer->(the first one) something like Change Orgmodel to multiple assignment.
Be aware that there are some limitations with each setting and this change cannot be made undone. So please read the documentation on this IMG activity carefully. If you execute the report and re-load the buffer via SE38 - Report HRBCI_ATTRIBUTES_BUFFER_UPDATE you should be able to assign the office the way you want to.
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