ATP - Check in STO

We will create STO PO for our inter-plant transfer. We have plant delivery time of 100 DAYS. we don't want the system to get confirmed any qty while creating the order. We are doing delivery through SD route. Only ATP check needs to turned on while doing delivery creation only . How to get this Function ? Any input will be highly appreciated
Thanks
JJ

Pls check the following links
ATP check at order level and delivery level
http://www.saptechies.com/what-is-availability-check-how-to-configure-it/

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ATP check for STOs

Hi,
Can ATP be set for intercompany STOs?
If so , can anyone list it please.
Regards
Krishna

Hi
Yes we can setup ATP check for STO...
actually ATP will be depends on the combination of the checking group and checking rule
checking group : is defined at material master sales/plant view in availability check field..
Checking rule : In standard this will be assigned to application internally ex : sales order - A (sales order)
delivery - B (delivery)..
In STO we need to define the checking rule for purchase order type and shipping plant combination...
menu path :
IMG -- MM -- Purchasing -- PO -- set up stock transport order -- assign delivery type and checking rule....
hope it solves your probs
Muthu

ATP Check with STOs

Hi All
Need your help to resolve the following concern in committed date of STOs
Scenario:
When a STO is created for a material where the supplying plant has no stock, then the committed date in the delivery schedule lines comes up as 31.12.9999 and the statistical date comes up as the requested delivery date + planned delivery time!
I guess this is fine as system considers forward scheduling automatically in this case.
However this order is not considered by BOP as well!
Now if the stock is produced / made available even then the STO is not getting picked up in BOP
So this results in inconsistency (APO/R3) and also when the delivery is generated it comes up with error! (wrong quantity / date or '0' qty)
Now if I manually do the ATP check in the STO line item, it changes the dates. Still it dosent show up in BOP but delivery can be created!
Can you guys please advice me what should be the process for such STOs (which were created when there was no stock in supplying plant). As manually doing ATP check isnt sensible.
Also why is that BOP is not picking up these STOs (I have already checked the parameters and STO is included)
Thanks in advance
RK

RK,
"Crazy" is a misnomer when dealing with software. The only things in this business that are crazy are the clients. Unfortunately, they also pay the bills, so you have to live with such insanity.
According to your error message, you haven't defined 050 / U. I don't know the entire scenario, but to me this is a red flag that must be addressed regardless of any other steps you take. You must either create these check instructions, or eliminate objects that are calling for this combination.
I just reviewed my posts, and I don't see any place there where I said I did not create 'U'. I did say I removed my original BE, which wasn't 'U'. My original BE for STOs and STPrqs was 'ST'. I removed this from both R/3 and SCM. Then I created 'U' in R/3 and 'U' in SCM.
1. R/3: SM30 > view V_441R Create 'U' Checking Rule.
2. R/3: SM30 > view V_441V Create Availability check as necessary using 'U' Check rule and the Availability checks you will be using.
3. R/3: SM30 > view V_161V doc category B remove your existing check rule and replace with 'U'
4. R/3: SM30 > view V_161V doc category F Remove your existing check rule and replace with 'U'.
5. SCM SM30 > View /SAPAPO/V_ATP02 > Create BE 'U'
6. SCM SM30 > View /SAPAPO/V_ATP07 > Remove the existing check instructions for STOs. Create new check instructions as necessary for STOs, using BE 'U'.
7. SCM SM34 > Dialogue /SAPAPO/ATPC04_05 > Remove the existing Check control(s) for STOs. Add the appropriate Check control items using BE 'U'.
I don't really know if the 'U' issue is related to your original problem. I am only responding to the part of your post where you said
I am getting error:
Check instruction / U does not exist for location product XXXX / XXXX
FYI throughout this post, I have been assuming that you have no userexits/BADIs activated, on either side (R/3 nor SCM) nor are you using RBA. Either of these events would mean additional troubleshooting steps would be required.
Best Regards,
DB49

ATP check for STO

Hi Gurus
Can some one explain me about the configuration of ATP for Stock Transport Orders?
Thanks
Sam

Hello,
1. you can create your own checking rule in IMG - MM - Purchase order - Set up Stock transport order - Create checking rule
2. then you can define the checking rule in IMG - MM - Purchase order - Set up Stock transport order - Define Checking Rule.
If you create a new checking rule in the first step, you should enter a new entry here. "Availability check" field refers to the field in Material master record MRP3 view
3. assign your STO order's checking rule in IMG - MM - Purchase order - Set up Stock transport order - Assign delivery type and checking rule.
4. Go to IMG - Purchasing - Environment Data - Define Default values for buyers.
Choose "Settings for Default values", select one record, then click "Addl. scrs." tab, there is a field "Detailed information" on "Availability check for stock transfers" sub-screen.
After finishing this setting, you can assign parameter ID "EVO" for users and put the value of the record you defined in step 4.
Regards,
Gunadi

Block the ATP Stock for non-ATP checked items in BOP

Hello GATP Experts,
We have a strange and interesting scenario here with STOs. Let me explain step by step
1) We don't do ATP check for STOs and hence a Z-check mode has been designed and it will be considered for STO documents
2) Now, let us consider a situation where I have a stock of 100 CS for Material M1 at Plant P1.
3) Let's say, a STO document gets created at 09:00AM in the morning with requested quantity 50 and as it doesn't do ATP check this will be fully confirmed
and consumes 50CS of the stock.
4) So, the net cumulative quantity that is available is 50CS.
5) At 11:00AM,let us say; there is a sales order that was created for a quantity of 100 CS. As the sales document does the ATP check it consumes the only available 50 CS and gets saved with partial confirmaiton situation.
Now, at 12:00 PM - We are running the BOP. When we run the BOP ; what standard SAP does is STO document (as per our business scenario, STOs has higheest priority and they fall on top of the list) gets skipped due to non-ATP check mode and full stock is allocated to the sales order which makes no sense to us which leads to over confirmation situation.
We thought of exluding the STOs from BOP ; however - we end up in not re-scheduling the STO documents which would result in requiring a separate BOP to be run for the STO documents.
FYI - We have contacted SAP and they have confirmed that the above mentioned behavior of the BOP is as designed and it cannot be changed.
Is there any alternative solution for this ? Appreciate your valuable ideas.
Thanks
Babu Kilari

You might have already considered this. pardon if this sounds dumb.
see if you can pass STO's as a receipt in the scope of check for STO's. I presume it is requirement element in your case for ATP checking rule for STO's. Don't include these STO's in sales order checking rules.
This may result in inconsistent ATP logic though. Alternately try creating a Z category for STO and call it a receipt. include this also in the scope of check for STO's.
Try running BOP and see what happens. BOP on its own is not a gurantee that a requirement is always confirmed over another, whatever be the sorting criteria. If there isnt enough stuff, the system has its own internal logic of sorting too which probably treats priority by time of creation of the requirement.
Publish if you meet any success. These ideas are just based on my fancies
Guru

Need suggestions for Sales Order ATP for Material STO in from other Plant

Our client does not want to stock inventory at either the DC or the Manufacturing Plant. They receive a Sales Order at the DC and the ATP check is set up to check Stock at the DC (likely none); inbound Stock Transport Orders (likely none) and then resort to the Replenishment Lead time.
The Replenishment Lead time for externally procured materials (F) with Special Procurement key (STO it in from the manufacturing plant) is the Planned Delivery Time in the Material Master. The problem is the Planned Delivery time is just the 5 days it takes to get the stock from the manufacturing plant to the DC. If the Manufacturing plant has no inventory (which is very likely since we don't maintain PIRs to stock it prior) we will promise the customer delivery in 5 days which is much too soon.
We cannot inflate the Planned Delivery time to be the 5 days of transit plus the 30 days of total procurement and manufacturing time at the manufacturing plant because then the MRP signal will tell the manufacturing plant to buy and make much too soon.
They don't want to ship goods directly from the manufacturing plant; they must be shipped from the DC.
I realize that this is not a good business process but is there a solution for this?
Edited by: AnnHustis on Jan 21, 2012 6:26 PM
Edited by: AnnHustis on Jan 21, 2012 6:35 PM

Ann,
This is a common practice, and I don't think that the business process is unreasonable.
1. Remove the special procurement key from the RWHS Material Master
2. Change Material Master in the RWHS to X procurement.
3. Set your RWHS Material Master 'Total Replenishment Lead time'
Next step assumes that the company codes are the same between RWHS and Manufacturing Plant.
4. Create Purchase Info Record for the RWHS material, that points to the vendor of the Manufacturing plant
5. Create quota arrangement in which 100 percent of the quota comes from the Manufacturing Plant Purchase Info Record, and is MRP relevant
6. Insert a step after the RWHS MRP run where the Planned orders are immediately converted to Purchase requisitions.
Business process:
a. Sales order is entered. ATP checks RWHS stock and excess inbound.
b. If inadequate supply, then ATP confirms to Total Replenishment Lead time (and not planned delivery time).
c. MRP runs; creates a planned order for the shortage.
d. New step in MRP job converts the Planned order to a Purchase req. Purchase req is sourced via the quota arrangement
e. Purchase Req requirement (Manufacturing plant) is offset by the Planned delivery time to accommodate transit duration.
f. Purchase req demand now places a requirement on the Manufacturing plant, with dates and quantities that will support the Sales order in the RWHS.
g. Convert the Purchase Req to a STO once the stock appears in the Manufacturing Plant.
Best Regards,
DB49

Availability check for STO?

Hi,
While doing Stock transfers order (PO) plant to plant with in the company code, there is no controlling on availability check, though stocks are not available in the supplying plant, while making delivery thro VL10B, delivery is creating with '0' Qty. This system want to stop the delivery when quantities are not available in the supplying plant.
The following steps are configured for availability check for STO
Schedule line Like NN activated for availability, Assigned schedule lines to item category like NLN and determined rule for STO document type, plant, Delivery type and checking rule in MM.
how to control the delivery, when stock are not available in supplying plant? (Means, when stock are not available in the supplying plant, delivery creation should stop through VL10B)
Is there any more configuration is required, pl guide.
Rao
Edited by: R Rao on Aug 22, 2008 1:42 PM
Edited by: R Rao on Aug 29, 2008 6:03 PM

Alexandro,
During delivery creation, the system performs an availability check (ATP). You can assign the Delivery notice type for a stock transfer order delivery notice at OMGN. The ATP for DN will be the standard ATP rules for SD delivery notices (checking rule B).You can determine which elements are used for availability checking in OVZ9.
To meet your goals, I suggest you use:
Check w/o replenishment lead time ticked
Include deliveries ticked.
Optionally, according to your company's policies
Include safety stock ticked
Include quality inspection stock ticked
Everything else unticked.
Regards,
DB49

ATP check on a specific batch characteristic

Hi Experts,
Is possible in GATP to check on a specific batch characteristic?
For example:
Sales order: Customer request SKU A (1000KG) with quality profile with a specific characteristic e.g. Water content need to be between 110 and 130 ppm.
Production manufacture the SKU A with quality profile Water content between 80 and 160. Production is completed and goods are on hand.
Stock on hand of the SKU A
250 KG Batch 1 -> Water content 85 ppm
250 KG Batch 2 -> Water content 120 ppm
250 KG Batch 3 -> Water content 140 ppm
250 KG Batch 4 -> Water content 115 ppm
250 KG Batch 5 -> Water content 122 ppm
250 KG Batch 6 -> Water content 117 ppm
Is it possible that GATP runs this check on order entry ?
1000 KG SKU A required, GATP is searching and finds 250KG batch 2, 250KG batch 4, 250KG batch 5, 250KG batch 6.
Does standard GATP provide this functionality ? If yes, how does it support this business process ?
Thanks,

Hi
It appears that you are describing a scenario where goods are sold from stock. In that case you can use the Characteristics Based ATP check.
Characteristics-Based Product Availability Check - Global Available-to-Promise (Global ATP) - SAP Library
Search on this forum and SAP help for more details. Customer requirements for characteristic values of batch are maintained in Sales Order using batch search strategies (Tcode VCH1).
Since customers will potentially accept multiple values of a characteristic you can use characteristic substitution in Rules Based ATP to check for multiple discrete values.
Characteristics Substitution Procedure - Rules-Based Availability Check - SAP Library
Note that characteristic based ATP (with or without characteristic substitution) may be difficult to use if a characteristic can have continuous values or if the value of a characteristic changes over time (for example, remaining shelf life or quality grade).
Characteristic substitution creates sub-items in Sales Orders for every substituted characteristic value. May or may not be acceptable from a logistics execution perspective.
Finally, this gets even more complex depending on your scope of check. Foe example, if you want to commit to Inbound STO's at a distribution center, these ATP categories do not have characteristic assignment.
An alternative to using Characteristics Based ATP is to use Characteristic Evaluation functionality. See OSS note 601813 for its several limitations. From a performance perspective it is preferable to use Characteristics Based ATP over Characteristic Evaluation since it uses the ATP time series instead of detailed pegging relationships in order live cache.
Rishi Menon

ATP check in BAPI_PO_CREATE1

Hi! Experts
I'm using BAPI_PO_CREATE1 to create stock transport orders (STOs) but encountered limitation in ATP check.
The requirement is to create several STOs during once program excution according to the uploading data file. If any errors occur reverse any orders which has been genereated - which can be easily achived by ROLLBACK WORK statement.
Take an example, material A has total stock 100 TO. To create 1 order with 120 TO will get message return as 'no enough quantity in plant xxxx'. However if import data file contains 6 STOs with quantity 20 TO by calling BAPI, all can be generate succesfully because every order pass the ATP check during BAPI call.
Would like to ask for alternative solutions rather than COMMIT WORK for every time BAPI call.
Thanks,
Yina

Hi! Experts
I'm using BAPI_PO_CREATE1 to create stock transport orders (STOs) but encountered limitation in ATP check.
The requirement is to create several STOs during once program excution according to the uploading data file. If any errors occur reverse any orders which has been genereated - which can be easily achived by ROLLBACK WORK statement.
Take an example, material A has total stock 100 TO. To create 1 order with 120 TO will get message return as 'no enough quantity in plant xxxx'. However if import data file contains 6 STOs with quantity 20 TO by calling BAPI, all can be generate succesfully because every order pass the ATP check during BAPI call.
Would like to ask for alternative solutions rather than COMMIT WORK for every time BAPI call.
Thanks,
Yina

ATP check for 'stock in transfer'

I have a scenario which I created a Sales Order for 100 EA of product 'X' shipping from DC01 to a customer. DC01 does not currently have inventory for product 'X'. SAP has inventory only available in DC02.
I created a (two step) STO and an outbound delivery shipping inventory from DC02 to DC01. I issued the 100 EA of product 'X' against the outbound delivery. Transaction MB5T shows the 100 EA 'in transit'.
Under my availability check, on my sales order, the checking rule scope displays, a check on 'Include Stock in transfer'.
Why am I unable to view my stock in transit of '100' EA from the STO process when I look at the ATP check ? How can ATP view the 'Stock in transfer' from the two step STO?
Thank you,
Gustavo

Hi,
Check the settings in t.code OVZ9.
Check the box include purchase orders and select A or X in the field Incl. rel. order reqs field.
After making these settings, just test and update the results.
Do you have batches in the STO? If so are they in restricted status during "in-transit"?
Regards

GATP: How to consider SNP Deployment demand (EG) into ATP check ?

Hello experts,
we have a location 1000 where we run GATP. This location serves customers directly (via normal SalesOrders) and serves other locations like a DC via STOs. Serving other location is done (in a nutshell) using SNP which creates SNP STOs and afterwards we run Deployment to push out avialable stock. We would like to consider the so called "SNP Deployment Requisitions" (EG - "Deployment: Release for stk transf. req") as demand which the GATP product availability check should take into account. By this we would like to make sure "serving other locations" from locaiton 1000 is accounted for while performing ATP check for the Sales Orders in location 1000.
Problem: ATP category EG has been added to the ATP customizing (check control in SPRO) - but these SNP Deployment Reqs do not have a "confirmed qty" looking into RRP3 / ATP tab - only a required qty. THis means these elements are not considered while doing an ATp check although the demand categorty is in scope of the ATP check. I checked the cumulation rules - we are using 3 (consider req qty during create, consider conf qty during chg) - but this doesn't help even with the other rules we have there.
I wonder if there is a way to tell the system to consider the ATP cat. EG as demand correctly - even without a confirmed qty. Or, does somebody known how to generate/make SNP deployment reqs "with conf qty" (I checkded SNP deployment heuristicsdocumentation and SAP help etc. - without any result).
Regards
Thomas

Hi Elanie/Thomas,
We have similar issue where we are trying to confirm deployment demand in supplying location to reserve HUB demand over customer orders.
I tried the setting mentioned by Thomas but ended up getting the same error as Elania " No orders selected by filter setting"
"performing an GATP-BOP run on SNP Deployment PReqs does only require to setup a respective BOP "filter type" as follows:
--> add ATP cat "EG" while maintaining the filter type in tcode S_AP9_75000212
--> use the filter type in your /SAPAPO/BOP run
Be sure that you select orders / run your BOP in thesupplying location (where SNP deployment orders are of ATP cat = EG)."
Please let me know if you have any work around or solution for this .
Thank you,
Sai

APO ATP - ATP Check for batch stock

Hi experts
We have an interesting scenario on which i dont have much exposure. The client promises stock from specific batches. eg. a particular sales order can only be confirmed from a specific batch. The details of the batch is provided on the sales order. Is there a way that GATP addresses this requirement. If yes then can someone please share the config details to set up such a scenario.
Thank You
Rajiv Sarin

Hi Rajiv,
Let me know if you could discover this. This could be oft required function in GATP. But i presume the batch determination (automatic-FIFO, LIFO etc) would precede the availability check and hence subsequent processes of delivery and PGI would have to "honour" it physically as well once confiemed on order.. If e.g. RF trasactions are used and batch numbers at HU or item level are scanned, then it would be impossible for picking to happen as this lends itself as sure case of physical inventory violation.
I imagine a whole lot of developments of GATP esp. considering customers expectations wrt. "variants (not a in VC-CA)", "make (e.g any 3 models of phones available for same price with a connection)", "regular/gift pack", "age(2002 make motorbike)" etc. even if to begin with they dont make different saleable, plannable, traceable or accoutable products..they only make some extra options (maintained nowhere in the system) available for some historical reasons. Its also likely that for the same order partial quantities are confirmed at different locations (using MLATP).. e.g. regional DC, factory, retail outlet or some other private retailer (sales order converting itself partially to a purchase order) with or without consolidation.
Also likely are options wrt customer delievry locations (ship to parties) that again lends a strong business case to make full use of advanced availablity checks, consolidation(at original location of check), automatic STO's being trigerred to a given location, MISL (the best possible consolidation location),.. and bring in the concept of ATP optimizer (cost based) or MAD based (due date based) and an ATP strategy. (much more complex then rule strategy) in a sense that there is a lot of value to be "unlocked" with some creative order promising that would lend itself to complete line and order fill rate even when there appears to be little scope of fulfilling it. Here comes the role of customer service/self service to let customers convince themselves with better options., that makes the order serviceable and profitable at the same time.
e.g. In a pure MTO kind of scenario GATP could assume even greater significance with its unique abilities to trigger planned orders and purchase requistions, component and capacity checks. incl. checks at SMI slocations, subcon, component vendors, mfg. plants, and plug itself to entire production schedule just from an ATP check of an end product. This could probably be called Automatic ATP. I am sure SAP has thought on these lines and holds a lot on these lines for future releases.
Regards,
Loknath

ATP check for materials and ATP Confirmed Qty's

Good morning,
I have a question regarding the ATP.
If I have a 100 of box a in stock and I have 2 Planned Orders for 75 (total req on box is 150).
When I convert the first Planned Ord to a Prodution Ord, the ATP check will run and confirm that I have the 75 boxes required (as we want it), but if I then convert the second Planned Order I would expect the ATP to say that only 25 is available, but it is also telling me that the 75 boxes required are available.
Can I set the ATP to confirm/allocate the first 75 boxes to the first Production Order and when the second order runs ATP to only commit to 25?
Thanks in advance.
ATP novice :o)

Hi Guy Hall,
Please check with, "include dependent reservation and production order" has been activated for checking rule used for production order at "avilabilty checking scope"
Regards
Pradeep

Re: ATP check at storage location level.

Hi All,
NEED urgent help.
I want to know if it is posiible to have ATP check at storage location level only.
I do not want this check to happen at plant level.
Please reply.
Thanks and regards,
Nilesh

Hi Shankar,
Storage location is defaulted in sales order.
Can you tell me if there is any user exit for ATP wherein I can carry out the ATP at storage location level and not at plant level.
Thanks and regards,
Nilesh

Re: ATP check at storage location level in sales order.

Hi ,
I have a requirement wherein storage location is determined in my sales order, the ATP check is done at plant level as well as storage location level , and the smaller of the two quantities is taken as the result of the ATP check.
My requirement is that the ATP check should only be performed at storage location level .
Please suggest if there is any standard setting available in SAP.
iF NO , PLEASE SUGGEST SUITABLE USER EXIT, WHERE I can add my requirement.
Regards,
Nilesh

Hi Nilesh,
in SAP standard the system is always checking on plant level first and then on the storage location level, there is no possibility to change this behaviour.
I'm also not sure if the process is correct, because if you have also requirements on plant level only then you would create negative ATP if you confirm on storage location level even though there is no ATP on plant level.
I'm also not aware of a user-exit that would suite your requirement, additionally according to the IMG documentation the user-exits in the availability check area should only be carried out in agreement with SAP.
Regards,
Markus

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