Bad experience with Verizon store!

Yesterday, we went to the local verizon store in Wichita Falls, TX to add a line to my account for my daughter.  She is currently using a prepaid phone with ATT and we wanted to switch her over to our Verizon account.  She picked out a Nokia Lumia Icon that they had on display.  The sales rep that we dealt with went to get the phone and a lot of accessories for it for her to look through.  She decided not to get a case but she did want to get screen protectors. 
The rep scanned the phone box and told us that instead of the $149.99 with a $50 rebate, they could do an instant rebate and would offer us $100 in free accessories.  Yay!  Great!  Free stuff is always good!  We went to look at accessories for our other devices as she had already decided that she didn't like the cases they had for her new phone.  We settled on a bluetooth keyboard case for our tablet. 
At this point, the rep handed us off to his manager so he could go help other customers.  The manager went through the process of activating the phone.  She asked if we would like her to put one of the screen protectors on for us.  We answered that we would.  She attempts to put the protector on and it doesn't fit the phone.  After looking at it some, the reason it won't fit is that the phone they have is the Lumia 928 NOT the Lumia Icon she had picked out. 
The manager looks into it and comes back to tell us that the 928, which is not on display anywhere in the store, is in stock.  The Icon is not in stock and would have to be ordered.  She asks if we want her to look up the differences in the phones, which we did.  The Icon has a better processor, 1/2 inch larger screen, and double the memory of the 928.  We told her that we did not want the 928 and for them to order the Icon.  They ended up having to order it from another store in the area because the warehouse showed it as "retired." 
At this point, the manager we're dealing with returns all of the accessories and hands us the tablet to sign for another $40+ because they won't do the instant rebate or the free accessories with the Icon.
So we wasted over 2 hours in the store dealing with this mess, had them try to give us a phone we didn't want without telling us it wasn't the one we wanted, and promise free goodies just to take it all back when we told them that we wanted the phone that we asked for in the first place.
If it hadn't been for the screen protector, we would've walked out with a phone that was inferior to the one that she looked at in the store and would've been left to figure this out later. 
Not sure if the bait-and-switch tactic is normal for Verizon stores, but this was a very aggravating situation that wasted a lot of our time. 
Good customer service would've done something to try to make this right...like maybe making good on everything they had promised during the transaction!

I agree good customer service and getting everything they promised is a good start. At the same time we as customers should be looking at the box of the phone and the phone and do a better job inspecting what they bring us. After all we need to be paying attention as well. They could of had a person that is learning and could of not paid attention and knew about them being different phones. I am not making excuses for them as they do need to do more training with their new people if that was the case. But I agree with you and understand as it is a tough thing to have to deal with.

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    Polite but uninformative. Notice that beyond an unfocused general apology it does not acknowledge any problem nor does pledge any improvement, just a vague statement that they may allow me to use it's service again if I choose to try (not exactly reasuring).
    A second answer to a second e-mail says: (Ticket ID: SVN-701-71147) "Thank you for your email, please be assured the money will be refunded back to you."
    That's all. Again polite but no useful information, just a vague assurance of refund, somehow, someday into the indefinite future. If it happens I'll post it here but I'm not holding my breath.
    Reading other answers from Chat and Vision posted online here and on other forums dealing with their service, there appears to be a pattern of politeness, vageness, refusal to acknowledge problems and absence of a pledge to improve. Their costumer care seems designed to placate the user without promising to get better, and is so devoid of helpul attitude that it makes me believe that their messages are redacted by a software program, and consumer complains never reach any administrative person. I might be wrong but the doubt has been sown which is a shame. Up until now I was very vocal on my praise for skype, recomending it to family and friends as a very useful and good service, but this experience with Chat and Vision, and my discovery of their costumer service history online, has set me thinking about looking for alternatives to Skype, and certainly has dissuaded me to recomend Skype to anyone ever again,or at least while their sales are still managed by Chat And Vision, or at least while Chat and Vision continues its customer service attitude, polite on the surface but haughty and unhelpful underneath.
    If there are new updates I might post them here, but for now I will not pursue the matter further since the amount involved was small and I see no point in sending more e-mails to Chat and Vision. I just feel bitter that the great service that I felt was Skype has ben tarnished by this experience. Just some final thoughts: 
    I do not complain that my order was scrutinized by security reasons, I understand the risk of illegal activity on online transactions, and the need of online companies to be careful, but the process Chat and Vision used seemed overly unconcerned for the confort of the consumer. It took around a full day for my order to be scrutinized and then rejected, which did let me for a long time in the dark not knowing if my gift would reach the friend I wanted to give it to. This is 2014, does Chat and Vision not have the tecnology to do a better and faster process? Do they scrutinize online orders by hand? I have read more cases similar to mine here on this forum, which to me implies that Chat and Vision are overly and unnecessary zealous on their security procesess. ( Also it is jarring that they seem to consider their clients to be criminals, for no reason at all and with no opportunity to contest the charge.)
    If they are going to reject a transaction on security reasons, why not do it before the payment is processed, not after, which can be stressful to the consumer that gave the money and didn't receive what was advertised, for no real reason. Seems to me there is a mistake in the way the system is set, or there is a clear disdain of what the client might think or feel.
    I think that's all. Thank you if you went all the way thru this overly long rant. If you are a consummer beware that when you buy services from Skype, you are not buying from Skype but from somebody else and that somebody else does not have a spotless record. If you are an administrative person from Skype or Chat and vision, I hope you eventually prove me wrong about your unconcern for the welfare of the consumer. My experience so far is not encouraging but that may change.
    Have a good one.

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