Business group structure in 11.5.10.2

Hi all,
I am using Vision demo for 11.5.10.2. Is there any feature where we can outline business group structure ? I think it is available in DashBoard. However, I could not be able to find it out.
TIA.
dba.apps.

Login to your ebusiness suite and run the oracle diagnostics test 'Organization Structure'
This would give you details about organization structure like business group definitions, GRE/Legal Entity accounting details etc.
more information on Oracle Diagnostics at
http://appstech-sam.blogspot.com/2006/09/oracle-diagnostics.html
Sam
http://appstech-sam.blogspot.com

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