Cash Flow in BW based on cost based COPA

Hi,
We have at presently in ECC6, Cost based copa. Now we have to create Profit and loss, cash flow based on that..So I have few question belonging to same as below
1. Can we create Cash flow and Profit and loss based on Cost based COPA.
2. Can we create Cash flow and Profit and loss based on Account based COPA.
3. How can we report in BI based on cost based copa information, can anybody share their experiences/documents please.

Please check this document:
http://help.sap.com/printdocu/core/Print46c/en/data/pdf/COPA/COPA.pdf
Hope it helps.
Thanks
Mona

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Hi,
It all depends on the OPerating oncern which you are going to use for the CO-PA implementaion.
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Have you deactivated any of the characteristics used in Account based COPA
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When we generate CO-PA Data Source select accounting based option.
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Please refer to the Thread posted today for COPA config.
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