Change Profit Centre in Cost centre

Hello Experts,
I have to change profit centre in cost center (postings have been done on cost centre), how can I do ?
Thanks in advance.
Regards,
Catherine

Hi,
Once you post transaction to the Cost Center, we can not change Business Area or Profit Center assignment for the same Fiscal Year.
System will allow changes for the subsequent Fiscal Years though.
You cannot really reduce the number of Cost Centers. However we can restrict the validity period though. You can delete the Cost Center validity for the dates that do not have transaction with in the same Fiscal year as well.
Hope this helps
Regards,
Som

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