Close 3rd Party Purchase Order

Hi SAP,
I am trying to close Open 3rd party Purchase Order. When I set the Deletion indicator on PO item and click on save, t
his message appear ;-
"No update of sales order 931518 from purchase order (error V1 154)".
My understanding is I need to close the 3rd Party SO first, then i go to the 3rd Party Sales Order and set the Reason for rejection and set the status as "phase out" and click on save , then this message appear ;-
"Subsequent documents already exist for item 000001"
"Delete purchase order 7700688124, item 00010"
because of this error I cannot delete the 3rd SO & PO. how can i close the SO & PO ???
Kindly help ?

HI,
Pls check whether the customer is blocked , if so remove the block and then mark the SO line item as rejected and then delete the PO.
Regards,
Chandru

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