Color calibrating monitor

Hello, I am new to the pro photography/editing world and I am looking for recommendations for monitor color calibration systems. I am currently using a 13 inch macbook air. There are so many on the market I don't know where to start. I am looking for something that can automatically adjust the calibration for whatever light I happen to be sitting in at the moment- perhaps something with a sensor? I am not trying to break the bank. I see that the Spyder4 and X-Rite are popular. If you can give me your recommendations/model name that would be great!!

Keith_Reeder wrote:
Not sure why you'd think this was an on-topic question for a Lightroom forum?
Not sure why you think correct display of your files is irrelevant? Are all hardware-related discussions off-topic? All discussions on color management? If you think that, I suggest you just stay out of those threads and concentrate on the threads you find relevant.
Meanwhile, I'll be happy to answer.
Generally, you have the right idea in that your working environment will influence your perception. But an automatic adjustment of your calibration introduces so many uncontrollable factors that it's practically unworkable. It will only confuse you. Some calibrators have an option to adjust display brightness automatically, but the general advice is to disable that.
Concentrate on controlling your environment as far as you can. It's much more important to tune your calibration targets so that you get a good match to printed output. Ideally, screen white point should be a visual match to paper white - and this is where the environment will influence your perception. Similarly for contrast/black point. Start at 120 cd/m² and 6500K, and a contrast range (if available) of around 350:1. Adjust as needed to get a match.
Some will probably say a laptop display is not worth calibrating at all. I disagree, but don't expect too much. One basic problem is that most laptop displays are TN-based with very restricted viewing angles, to the point where the top of the screen is too dark and the bottom washed out. But if you get a calibrator now you still have that if you decide to get a better monitor later.
To be specific, I'd recommend the x-rite i1 Display Pro at around $200. This is generally the best third-party calibrator currently on the market. A more inexpensive solution is the ColorMunki Display, which uses the same sensor but somewhat restricted software. The Spyders are good too, but not quite as reliable and consistent at the same price point.

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Recommended color calibrator/monitor calibration tool?

Hi all,
It is a few years since I have purchased a color calibrator for my monitor and need to purchase a new one now at the new company I am at. It will be for my 30" Apple Cinema Display. As usual, I always come straight to these forums for your advice FIRST before making my selection.
In the past I have used both GretagMacbeth's Eye-One Display and the Pantone Huey. I have not tried the Colorvision Spyder.
Of course, these have each changed and been improved since I last worked with them, so can you make some recommendations as to which you feel may work best for you, and can thus recommend to me?
Thanks a lot in advance for your help!
Best regards,
Christine

ColorMunki has been getting lots of press.
This guy has a pretty good movie/review:
http://www.photo-i.co.uk/Colour%20Management/munki/munki.html
Profiles your printer as well as the monitor... Google it, lots of reviews.

Monitor color calibration

What system/equipment do you guys recommend for color calibrating a macbook and an external monitor?
I'd rather pay a little more for a better system than save a buck, if the results will be better.
Thanks.

I would look at the Spyder Express (link below). It gives you the same results as a Pro series, but is less expensive. The other thing you need to check is your Creative Suite Color Settings. You can set these up in Bridge (Edit>Creative Suite Color Settings). Hardware calibration is only one part of the equation, software is the other.
Thanks
Kevin
http://www.amazon.com/ColorVision-S3X100-SPYDER3EXPRESS/dp/B002OCF57K/ref=sr_1_5?ie=UTF8&s =electronics&qid=1264436096&sr=1-5
Kevin Stohlmeyer
Adobe Community Professional - Photoshop

Color Calibrating a Dell u2711 monitor in 10.6

I bought the Dell u2711 monitor right before the Apple 27" monitor was announced. I have had a horrible time trying to get the color calibration right. I don't have a hardware color meter, but that hasn't been a real problem with past monitors.
It seems that the Dell monitor functions in a wider color space, so I am not getting predictable results using photoshop in sRGB (for web graphics) or in general. Even if I restrict the monitor to the sRGB colorspace, some colors, such as reds and yellows appear washed out, while blues look fine. If I use the standard color setting, the color is super saturated when compared to my MBP LCD.
What are the best practice settings for calibrating this monitor for day to day web work?

what if you change your white balance setting or gamma.
Try native white point and 2.20 gamma

Color settings after calibrating monitor with Spyder 4Pro

Hello, Now that I got my new laptop and finally got a perfect calibration with the Spyder 4Pro , I have a question. Do I leave the color space on Photoshop and Lightroom as they are (Abobe 1998) or use the new profile? I also do a lot of my own prints with a great Epson, do I leave that on the setting as is ( let photoshop manage etc) or use the new profile?
Thanks in advance....

The profile saved by your calibration software is your Monitor Profile and absolutely nothing else..
It has absolutely nothing to do with your working color space or your printer (target) profile.
Monitor profiles are absolutely device-dependent, that means it only applies to your particular monitor unit and nothing else, not even an identical monitor of the same brand and model.
Your working space should be a a device-independet color space, such as ProPhoto RGB, Adobe RGB, sRGB, etc.
Your printer profile, also called target profile, is a totally device-dependent profile for your specific combination of paper/ink/printer.
You need to do an awful lot of reading on Color Management, a subject some of us have spent a very long time studying before we grasp it. A good place to start would be here:
COLOR MANAGEMENT PHOTOSHOP CC CS6 Basic ColorManagement Theory ICC Profiles Color Spaces Calibrated Monitor Professional…

Fully Color Managed Application (using calibrated monitor profiles)

Hi,
I'm new to JAVA 2D so I may be missing something obvious - apologies if I am, but I've been trawling the API and web to try and solve this for many hours - so any help would be much appreciated!
I'm trying to write an application to open a JPEG with an embedded colour profile (in this case AdobeRGB) and display it with correct colour on my monitor, for which I have an accurate custom hardware calibrated profile. In my efforts to do this several problems / queries have arisen.
So, JAVA aside, the concept is simple:
a) Open the image
b) Transform the pixels from AdobeRGB->Monitor Profile (via a PCS such as CIEXYZ).
c) Blit it out to the window.
(a) is fine. I've used the following code snip, and can query the resulting BufferedImage and see it has correctly extracted the AdobeRGB profile. I can even display it (non-color corrected) using the Graphics2D.drawImage() function in my components paint() method.
BufferedImage img = ImageIO.read(new File("my-adobe-rgb.jpg"));(b) Also seems OK (well at least no exceptions)...
ICC_Profile monitorProfile = ICC_Profile.getInstance("Monitor_Calibrated.icm");
    ColorConvertOp convert = new ColorConvertOp(new ICC_ColorSpace(monitorProfile ),null);
    BufferedImage imgColorAdjusted = convert.filter(img,null);[I was feeling hopeful at this point!]
QUESTION 1: Does this conversion go through the CIEXYZ (I hope) rather than sRGB, there seems to be no way to specify and the docs are not clear on this?
(c) Here is the major problem...
When I pass imgColorAdjusted to the Graphic2D.drawImage() in my components paint() method the JVM just hangs and consumes 100% CPU.
QUESTION 2: Any ideas why it hangs?
Pausing in the debugger I found the API was busy transforming by image to sRGB this leads to my third question...
QUESTION 3: If I pass an image with a color model to drawImage() does drawImage do any color conversion, e.g will it transform my adobe image to sRGB (not what I want in this case!)?
And if answer to Q3 is yes, which I suspect it is, then the next question is how to make the J2D understand that I have a calibrated monitor, and to tell it the profile, so that the Graphics2D it provides in paint() has the correct color model. Looking in the API I thought this was provided to J2D through the GraphicsEnviroment->GraphicsDevice->GraphicsConfiguration.getColorModel(). I tried looking at what these configurations were (code below). Result - 10 configurations, all with the JAVA 2D sRGB default, despite my monitor colour management (through the windows display properties dialog) being set to the calibrated profile.
QUESTION 4: Am I just off track here - does Java 2D support monitor profiles other than sRGB? Is what I am trying possible?
GraphicsConfiguration[] cfg = GraphicsEnvironment.getLocalGraphicsEnvironment().getDefaultScreenDevice().getConfigurations();
    System.out.println(cfg.length);
    byte[] d;
    for (int j=0; j<cfg.length; j++) {
      System.out.println("CFG:"+j+cfg[j]);
      d = ((ICC_ColorSpace)cfg[j].getColorModel().getColorSpace()).getProfile().getData();
      for (int i=0; i<d.length && i<256; i++){
        if (d[i] != 10 && d[i] != 13){
          System.out.print((char)d);
System.out.println();
Any help much appreciated.
Thanks.

I have had some sucess with this, but it wasn't easy or obvious. The trick is converting the color to the monitor profile and then changing the color model to be sRGB without changing the pixel data. JAI's Format operation does this easily although I'm sure there are other ways to do it. The RGB data is then displayed without being converted to sRGB so that the monitor calibration is maintained. I will answer your questions since I had similar ones.
Q1. Yes the conversion is done using XYZ as it should be.
Q2. I believe paint is just very slow, not hanging. Any color model other than XYZ or sRGB requires conversion before it can be displayed (as sRGB). This is both slow and incorrect for a calibrated monitor.
Q3. Yes that is what I have found, a conversion to sRGB will always happen, unless it appears to be already done as when the color model is sRGB (even though the pixel data is not!).
Q4. It is possible but apparently only with this somewhat strange work around. If there is a way to change the Java display profile to be other than sRGB, I could not find it either. However, calibrated RGB display can be achieved.
Since I have seen many other posts asking for an example of color management, here is some code. This JAI conversion works for many pairs of source and destination profiles including CMYK to RGB. It does require using ICC profiles in external files rather than embedded in the image.
package calibratedrgb;
import com.sun.media.jai.widget.DisplayJAI;
import java.awt.*;
import java.awt.color.*;
import java.awt.image.*;
import java.io.IOException;
import javax.media.jai.*;
import javax.swing.*;
* @author keitht
public class Main {
    public static void main(String[] args) throws IOException {
        String filename = args[0];
        PlanarImage pi = JAI.create("fileload", filename);
        // create a source color model from the image ICC profile
        ICC_Profile sourceProfile = ICC_Profile.getInstance("AdobeRGB1998.icc");
        ICC_ColorSpace sourceCS = new ICC_ColorSpace(sourceProfile);
        ColorModel sourceCM = RasterFactory.createComponentColorModel(
                pi.getSampleModel().getDataType(), sourceCS, false, false,Transparency.OPAQUE);
        ImageLayout sourceIL = new ImageLayout();
        sourceIL.setColorModel(sourceCM);
        // tag the image with the source profile using format
        RenderingHints sourceHints = new RenderingHints(JAI.KEY_IMAGE_LAYOUT, sourceIL);
        ParameterBlockJAI ipb = new ParameterBlockJAI("format");
        ipb.addSource(pi);
        ipb.setParameter("datatype", pi.getSampleModel().getDataType());
        pi = JAI.create("format", ipb, sourceHints);
        // create a destination color model from the monitor ICC profile
        ICC_Profile destinationProfile = ICC_Profile.getInstance("Monitor Profile.icm");
        ICC_ColorSpace destinationCS = new ICC_ColorSpace(destinationProfile);
        ColorModel destinationCM = RasterFactory.createComponentColorModel(
                pi.getSampleModel().getDataType(), destinationCS, false, false, Transparency.OPAQUE);
        ImageLayout destinationIL = new ImageLayout();
        destinationIL.setColorModel(destinationCM);
        // convert from source to destination profile
        RenderingHints destinationHints = new RenderingHints(JAI.KEY_IMAGE_LAYOUT, destinationIL);
        ParameterBlockJAI cpb = new ParameterBlockJAI("colorconvert");
        cpb.addSource(pi);
        cpb.setParameter("colormodel", destinationCM);
        pi = JAI.create("colorconvert", cpb, destinationHints);
        // image is now the calibrated monitor RGB data ready to display, but
        // an unwanted conversion to sRGB will occur without the following...
        // first, create an sRGB color model
        ColorSpace sRGB = ColorSpace.getInstance(ColorSpace.CS_sRGB);
        ColorModel sRGBcm = RasterFactory.createComponentColorModel(
                pi.getSampleModel().getDataType(), sRGB, false, false, Transparency.OPAQUE);
        ImageLayout sRGBil = new ImageLayout();
        sRGBil.setColorModel(sRGBcm);
        // then avoid the incorrect conversion to sRGB on the way to the display
        // by using format to tag the image as sRGB without changing the data
        RenderingHints sRGBhints = new RenderingHints(JAI.KEY_IMAGE_LAYOUT, sRGBil);
        ParameterBlockJAI sRGBpb = new ParameterBlockJAI("format");
        sRGBpb.addSource(pi);
        sRGBpb.setParameter("datatype", pi.getSampleModel().getDataType());
        pi = JAI.create("format", sRGBpb, sRGBhints); // replace color model with sRGB
        // RGB numbers are unaffected and can now be sent without conversion to the display
        // disguised as sRGB data. The platform monitor calibration profile is bypassed
        // by the JRE because sRGB is the default graphics configuration color model profile
        JFrame frame = new JFrame();
        Container contentPane = frame.getContentPane();
        contentPane.setLayout(new BorderLayout());
        DisplayJAI d = new DisplayJAI(pi); // Graphics2D could be used here
        contentPane.add(new JScrollPane(d),BorderLayout.CENTER);
        frame.setDefaultCloseOperation(JFrame.EXIT_ON_CLOSE);
        frame.setSize(600,600);
        frame.setVisible(true);
}

Images Change Colors between monitors while the UI stays the same

Hey! Im having an issue where photoshop changes the colors when I move the window between my monitors, seen here: http://sta.sh/04y5s60vf3j This isnt due to the monitors themselves being different, it actually changes after a few seconds of moving it inbetween the monitors. The left one has been callibrated with a spyder 3 elite which I no longer have access to. I applied the file with windows color management instead of the spyder utility. The second one is new, and it is not callibrated by anything, but instead was done by hand with the built in brightness/contrast/custom RGB settings. Both of them are very close to eachother, enough so for my tastes. but when photoshop changes what the image looks like, it's causing problems. Interestingly enough, when I disable callibration for the monitor on the left, the image does not change colors between monitors, but instead always appears as it does on the right. but then they don't match up and the whole screen looked washed out because it's uncallibrated, so that doesnt do me any good. Another interesting thing to point out, is when this image is saved as a .JPG, and viewed with firefox the image appears exactly like the monitor on the LEFT (which is my main monitor) despite the left monitor being the one that is force changed. does anyone have any suggestions? It also appears that windows photoviewer is behaving the same way, though firefox does not. Meaning when I open an image in all 3 on the left monitor, they look the same, but when opened on the right monitor, windows photo viewer and photoshop both display the image as brighter and redder than firefox does. This is frustrating, because it seems photoshop is changing the image with my callibration on my left monitor to match what it looks like on the web, which it does. but it doesn't do this for the right monitor, or when the left is uncallibrated. Another issue I can see with this is even if the UI is the same shade of gray, the images are different between the monitors because of this change. Does anyone have any suggestions?
- BD

Alright! So I reread through all this, poked at some things on the internet, and I'm going to attempt to summarize what would be a good solution for all this (And it seems, it still won't be perfect, but to get myself into the best environment I can for not messing with images for an hour trying to make them look nice before I post them to the web. I painted something yesterday on the cintiq, popped it over to my laptop screen and it just looked washed out and terrible.)
1. Get a X-rite EODIS3 i1 Display Pro, Callibrate laptop and cintiq. I do have the money to drop on something like this, especially if it's a time saver.
     Things I'm not sure about:
          a. There was a ton of complaints about the software not working when I checked reviews, but also a ton that said everything was great. most of them were mac users though.
          b. I'm not sure if problems would still be posed, even while calibrated, by me having a wide gamut monitor.
          c. I'm a terrible excuse for a human being and I think the colors showing up brighter on the wide gamut screen is pretty (I should just make my images this bright on a normal screen and there won't be any issues. >.>)
2. Set Firefox to color manage (easy enough)
3. Change my photoshop working space to sRGB (since they'll have been calibrated at this point)
3. Accept the fact that most of the people who look at my work will be doing so on a monitor that is almost certainly uncalibrated, and I can't control what they will see on my screen, but I CAN control if the colors are -actually- what I want them to be on any properly calibrated device. which is probably the best way to go anyways.
4. Make paintings, have fun.
Now, you two have been going on about all sorts of interesting things in here, and it seems that calibration issue run much much deeper than I ever thought. Do either of you have recommendations for how I should tweak this list of things to do or other things I can/ should do? I'm not currently a working professional, but if I have anything to say about it, I will be within a few years (I'm going to school for illustration and studying concept design on my own time) so it'd be useful for me to get into good habits now.
- Brendavid

Color calibration

Does the Apple Cinema Display 24-inch monitor require color calibration like any other monitor?
I have a Spyder2Express but have not used it yet with this new screen.
Anyone who calibrate their 24-inch screen from Apple?

If the printer is is not printing the wrong colors ( green instead of yellow) or printing to dark. It would be printing within the range of function. One can calibrate the color though the toolbox. The toolbox tabs and how to use the toolbox is covered in pages 74-75 in the user manual. I hope that this helps.
I am a former employee of HP...
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RE: JVC TMH150CGU 15" Color Production Monitor?

Greetings:
Looking for a dent, but mid-priced monitor for editing and color correction. I've read some pretty positive things about the JVC TMH150CGU 15" Color Production Monitor. Anyone using this? Anything else comparable that I should also check out?
Blessings,
Craig

I have this monitor. It has recently been discontinued by JVC. The world is turning HD LCD so you may get stuck with it when you upgrade your techniques or footage. It has very good picture quality and can be calibrated well, but remember that it is a standard definition monitor, so you will not be able to easily or inexpensively monitor 1080p/24fps timelines in FCP. I needed it for that purpose and found I would need to spend a lot more for a Matrox converter to use this monitor for those timelines. Unfortunately, I will be selling mine on ebay and purchasing a low end Sony LCD for canvas external monitoring.

Color Calibration Spyder Reccomendations Please

I've sifted through this forum & goggled Color Calibration Spyder Recommendations as I need a cheap no brain required to operate spyder for setting up my Dell 2407.
I'm looking for a general purpose device -- not one that will cost hundreds, require a masters to operate or give me press run results.
Does anyone on this forum have a recommendation for me?
Thanks in advance!

A while ago I bought PrintFIX Pro from ColorVision, which includes hardware and software for both monitor calibration and paper profiles for inkjet printing. I haven't made to many paper profiles, but I've had good results with monitor calibration. Not sure if they've come out with a newer version.
Best, David.

Best consumer color calibration device?

What is currently the best consumer-based color calibration device available? I need to calibrate (2) Dell IPS monitors and a Brother MFC-9840CDW color laser printer.
Thanks!

Try this
http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?threadID=2040803&tstart=0

U2413 Color Calibration "Verify USB Connection"

I am trying to use the Dell Ultrasharp Color Calibration Solution with an x-rite i1 Display Pro.
Can't get beyond "Verify USB Connection". The USB cable between the monitor and computer is connected (tried both a USB 3.0 and a 2.0 port). The USB hub on the monitor is working. E.g. a USB stick connected to it can be read. The hub also appears in Device Manager.
But the Color Calibration software insists that there is no connection.
I made sure that nothing was connected to the hub. Installed the driver as suggested by Chris in "http://en.community.dell.com/support-forums/peripherals/f/3529/t/19618874". So far nothing works.

The monitor is connected via HDMI to a Radeon HD 7900 card. I am not sure what you mean by "upstream" and "downstream", but there is a single USB cable connected to the back of the monitor to a USB 3.0 port on the computer. (I tried a USB 2.0 port as well.) The USB hub is working (tested with a USB stick). When I tried to use the calibration software nothing was connected to the hub (apart from when I tested with the x-rite i1Display connected to the hub).
Other USB ports on the computer are connected to: keyboard, mouse, HardLock dongle (also tested without the dongle).
The monitor was reset to Factory Defaults.
Only one monitor is connected.
DP 1.2 is disabled.
I tried the x-rite device connected directly to the computer and on both of the USB ports on the side of the monitor. X-rite's own Profiler software always recognizes the device, no matter to which port it is connected.

Color calibration & Aperture suggestions?

Working with Aperture, I am getting a wide variety of output from the various print shops I use for printing. My monitor is calibrated manually, but it is becoming apparent that this is no longer good enough and I am in need of a good calibrator.
Further, I run into different scenarios with the printers in town, and I would like to hear what other's experience / advice is regarding how they work with printers for professional prints.
Scenario #1: printer says "our systems are calibrated to neutral, you should do the same, no need for an ICC profile from us"
Scenario #2: printer says "Here is the ICC profile for our printer, Enjoy!"
Scenario #3: Printer says "when we get your images, we throw away the color profile, and proof everything on our systems manually, oh and we don't have ICC profiles for our equipment"
I work with all of these print shops, and have excellent results most of the time. As I shoot more and more digital though, I'm having more and more deviation from what I expect. From a practical standpoint, I'd really like to calibrate my monitor, get an ICC profile for the printer that will be used, and do the soft proof in Aperture. This isn't always possible though, since other factors, like cost, personal relationships, convenience etc also play a role.
Aperture clearly makes a nice workflow more possible with soft proofing built in, but how are you using, or not using it, with your real world printing? (read: not personal ink jet printing)
Also, what hardware calibrators work best for soft proofing work?
Various print shop friends have suggested:
-GretagMacbeth Eye-One Display 2
-Monaco Systems Optix XR
But I see a lot of people in this forum talking about the
-ColorVision Spyder2
Thanks for your comments.
powerbook G4 (late 2005) Mac OS X (10.4.4)

Colorvision makes great products in my experience. However you can't profile a powerbook and get good results. The screen has too much variation depending on viewing angle and would a nightmare to work with. Better to get an inexpensive crt or an lcd and profile that.
Scenario #1: printer says "our systems are calibrated to neutral, you should do the same, no need for an ICC profile from us"
This is the scenario where you have a calibrated monitor and send files perhaps with a match print from an epson. Its a basic starting point depending on what the output is, if it is cmyk repoduction, expect a big change in the result.
Scenario #2: printer says "Here is the ICC profile for our printer, Enjoy!"
In this case you can convert to their profile on output, and use the soft proof feature in Aperture or Photoshop to make sure the conversion retains as much of the original as possible. Should be good results.
Scenario #3: Printer says "when we get your images, we throw away the color profile, and proof everything on our systems manually, oh and we don't have ICC profiles for our equipment"
send them your color managed images and a match print and then depend on them to do it right. There is no other option. Could be good, this was how it was all done pre-photoshop 6, and it worked then...
Hardware calibrators are the only solution, much better than software calibrators which are useless. If you are sending files to fuji frontier printers you will get better results outputting sRGB, as it is a better match to the gamut of the printer. If you are sending files to a press, there are a few options, some people think that sRGB is great because it has a similar limited gamut like cmyk and you might tend to have fewer problems than sending adobe rgb98 which is impossible to reproduce on cmyk without some alteration. The scenario 3 guys are doing their own conversions, perhaps you might get better results with them as they are taking "responsibility" for the output by sending you a proof for approval. Scenario 2 guys might have the best deal going, as they know what their press is doing consistently and are simply saying convert to profile using this profile. Scenario 1 is a little more ambiguous, as there is no such thing as "calibrated neutral"-in fact calibration is only the first step in profiling. First you calibrate the device to get it into a known state and then you create a profile that describes that state for the color management engine to perform its conversions with.
Aperture can softproof onscreen if you specifiy the profile, and then you can create an output preset to convert the image to the correct profile for output. The only thing you can't control is the rendering intent, which in most cases is not a big deal, but can be an issue for some images. Apetures color rendering uses perceptual intent, which is the easiest to deal with overall.
As it shipped, Aperture defaulted with sRGB as the output space for all image types, (I thought was weird considering all this raw 16bit quality talk) and even though this is not great for inkjet, it is useful for most offset, frontier, lambda etc outputs. No great strain to get this on to paper.
Do some reading on creativepro.com about color management might help, and definitely get an external monitor for serious color correction, otherwise, you will have no real control.

Colors on monitor do not match printer colors

Ok, guys, I'm desperate. Have worked about 24 hours now trying to get what I see on my screen to be what comes out of the printer.
Using MBP 10.9.4, Epson 2200 and 490, in Seashore, Preview, ColorSync Utility, Splashup Light, etc, etc. Unfortunately, Photoshop is too expensive so reduced to these other apps. Have tinkered, calibrated monitor, read everything I can find online on the matter and nothing I do helps. The Image is dull and the colors are off. It's as tho a wash of something like tan was applied to the image.
this is what it looks like on my screen.
Below is how it's looking coming out of the various printers.
This has been going on forever but I didn't have the patience to figure out. Now it's necessary and a deadline is coming.
HELP.
Here you go with the paper version:
Please excuse the less than desirable lighting conditions but I think you get the point.
Thanks.

For a bunch of color detail info, see my responses in this topic.
In a nutshell:
1) Really, truly profile your monitor. That means a hardware/software solution like the X-Rite i1 Display Pro. Eyeballing it in the System Preferences is literally a waste of time.
2) Make sure you are using the output profile that matches the paper and printer you are using.
Be aware that even with these in place, paper output will never look exactly like the monitor. Especially on plain paper.

Images processed in lightroom on calibrated monitor then viewed on non calibrated monitors

I process my images to look good on on my calibrated monitor, then export them to my website for viewing. When I show people my images on their monitors which generally are not calibrated, the images of coarse look washed out and way too light. How do you guys compensate for a situation like that? Of coarse you want your images to look the way you want them too on everyones computer that looks at them. Is it best to darken and over saturate in lightroom to compensate for the difference?
Curt

The histogram represents the numerical values of lightness and color that are stored in the file or in the XMP-data or in the LR Catalog.
Different (uncalibrated) monitors interpret these numerical values differently, so an image from one and the same file would look different on these monitors.
But the (uncalibrated) monitors do not shift the black or white point; they just display the tonal values different. So for instance an image file with correct black and white point would have blown-out highlights on a monitor that is too bright. Or the darks could block-up on a monitor that is too dark.
But the monitor doesn't change your image file and doesn't change the histogram.
The purpose of calibrating the monitor is to give you a standard when you edit your images. If your monitor is not calibrated and - for instance - has a white point of 5000 K instead of the standard of 6500 K, then your images would appear too red (too warm in photographic terms) on your monitor. If you then corrected your image (its numerical values) so that it appears "normal" on your screen, it would have a blue cast (too cold) on a calibrated monitor.
So basically we calibrate our monitors to create a standard (a) between different devices (monitors, printers, etc) and (b) between your own images edited at different points in time. Without calibration your monitor would not only display "wrong" colors but display the same numerical color value differently at different time (monitors "drift" and thus have to be re-calibrated at regular intervals).
But naturally, the color management does not work for uncalibrated monitors. So, even if you have a color-managed workflow, you never know how your images that are posted on the web will look on other people's monitor. And there is no help for that as long as uncalibrated monitors exist.
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