Color Shifts in Exported AI Files

When we export an image from Flash CS4 as an ai file & open in Illus CS3, the colors are off (loss of saturation, hue shift).
Does not happen when saved in other formats.  Any suggestions?

I have an involved commercial image with lots of layers to export.  That would take me days.
The colors are specific to a color palette (based on an established logo).  When the image is reassembled, all the separate images (parts of the illustration) and their colors need to match.
Also, don't have this problem going from Illus to Flash (of course, then I have numerous export/import options on both ends).
I worked in Illus w/ the exported palette (from Flash), but again, too time consuming.
Interestingly, my Flash CS4 doesn't seem to differentiate - it's just an ai file (OS X 10.6.3).

Similar Messages

  • Big Color Shift between exported H264 mp4 and Program Monitor

    I get a big Color Shift between exported H264 mp4 on Vimeo/Youtube and Quicktime X and Program Monitor.
    There are quite a few posts on Quicktime gamma issues, but there seem to be no solutions and the other editors I know don't seem to have this problem.
    I know there will be a bit of a shift but this is MASSIVE. At the moment I add a whole extra adjustment layer to all my clips to get it approximately right, but ofcourse this does not solve the issue nor does it give proper results.
    Please do not reply with the "You need a real reference monitor via SDI etc etc ..."
    By my logic on the same screen the program monitor should resemble what is going to be the final result in a relevant player like Quicktime X which all normal apple consumers use to watch their films.  I know VLC and Mpeg streamclip gives different results, but mostly when playing Quicktime/h264 files Quicktime will play it thus average users ( the people I'd like to downwload/buy my films )will watch it in Quicktime.
    Furthermore, Quicktime X's gamma/color looks very similar to the image I get on Youtube or Vimeo - which is where all my current work is going. I'm not outputting to boradcast or DVD etc.
    Strangely enough the MPEG 2 stuff I've done for DVD matches the Youtube output with the Program monitor.
    What am I doing wrong?
    I have a Dell 2711 wide Gamut Display which is calibrated with an SPyder 3 Elite using its full colour gamut ( close to 90% of Adobe RGB - thus bigger than sRGB or Rec709) Could Premiere be ignoring the calibration in the Program monitor and making the image values 16-235 and then Quicktime uses all  values 0-255? If so, how can I fix this?
    Any help will be much appreciated!

    I know this has been a while so hopefully you found some help by now, but maybe this will help anyone stumbling across this.
    What people seem to be missing in what you are asking is... this is the same file, on the same monitor, but with a different appearance in different software.  It is not a question of whether the overall monitoring is GOOD, and it is not a matter of hardware settings (as that would most likely propogate across all software) it is that it is not CONSISTENT side by side on the very same monitor.
    I had very similar issues that really seemed to get worse when we got new monitors, which is what lead me to chime in here.  The monitors were also wide gamut displays.
    The problem is likely this...
    1. The difference being shown are the difference between software that properly color manages (i.e. Premier or After Effects) and software that does not (i.e. Quicktime or some web browsers)
    2. The reason it is so severe is that the wide gamut monitors are able to show many more colors and thus the difference between the managed and unmanaged software is much more exagerrated than on regular gamut monitors.
    I found this great link that helped calm my nerves and helped me get handle on much of what is going on.
    http://www.artstorm.net/journal/2009/07/color-management-wide-gamut-dell-2408/
    Now that is not to say that the 0-255/16-235 issue is not also involved here.  It is definitely possible that a specific codec or compressor is part of the problem, but it sounds like it starts with the color management issue first.
    I hope this helps. 
    Andy

  • Color shift when converting .mov file exported from Macromedia Flash

    I'm trying to convert quicktime file exported from Flash into any other format using Quicktime Pro 7.0.4 and I get substantial color shift. Here's the picture:
    http://img525.imageshack.us/img525/1518/screen3ov.jpg
    On the the left is the initial file, and on the right is what I get. I've tried all codecs setting (targa, jpeg2000, animation) but no luck. Please help!

    I am in the midst of trying to figure out the opposite : Flash to After Effects.  I am betting that this is an issue of 'color profile' attached to the images and the gamma settings in that profile.  RGBA is only part of the story - color profile is all the rest of it.  Eye Dropper doesn't tell you the color profile attached to the image.

  • Premiere Pro CS6 and Media Encoder CS6 Color shift on export

    Hello,
    I am working on an early 2008 Mac Pro with 2 X 3.2 GHz Quad Core Intel Xeon Processors 32 GB of RAM a NVIDIA GeForce 8800 GT 512 MB Graphics Card and I am running OS X 10.8.2.
    I have the updated Version of Adobe Premiere Pro CS6 and Media Encoder CS6 through the awesome Subscription program that Adobe has started.
    My footage is shot with the Canon 1D Mark IV shot 1920X1080 at 24 FPS
    I am importing the camera files and then exporting them after I cut them up in to Quicktime Pro Res 422 HQ files
    With the technical explination out of the way here is my problem. I have color right from the camera files that I like. and with out doing any thing to change the color I export the footage and get a dramatic color shift. The exported file looks desaturated and slightly green.
    I have tried using Media Encoder CS6 to export my footage and that has the same result.
    I started my career as a photographic retoucher and use photoshop and light room constantly so I am pretty confident that i know color. I also calibrate my Lacie 526 and Lacie 324i montiors monthly as well as have a sensor that will slightly shift the profile depending on the time of day.
    I have attached three screen shots that show the color shift exactly. Now what I need is a solution. What I am not seeing is color settings for Premiere. I am totally open to any suggestions on what I might be doing incorrectly.
    Ben

    Benjamin Peterson wrote:
    I started my career as a photographic retoucher and use photoshop and light room constantly so I am pretty confident that i know color. I also calibrate my Lacie 526 and Lacie 324i montiors monthly as well as have a sensor that will slightly shift the profile depending on the time of day.
    I've been doing this for a few years now, and have come to some conclusions. Basically, the difference between still photography and video is like the difference between playing the trumpet and the sax. What you bring to the sax from playing trumpet is your ability to read music, what you know about composition, blending while playint with others, ect. But playing trumpet tells you nothing about how to physically play a sax. So it is with still photography and video.
    For starters, your carefully calibrated computer monitor is just that, a computer monitor. It doesn't display the correct working space for video. What you need for WYSIWYG in video is a monitor that can show you the Rec.709 working space. Rec.709 has a different gamut, a different gamma, probably a different white point (D65), different phosphor colors, etc., etc., etc. Enought differences that it's difficult to make a computer monitor that can successfully display Rec.709. Yet there are a couple of computer monitors that can do this (a few Eizos, one HP). The vast majority of people doing serious color correction work in video use a production monitor for just this reason.
    But a production monitor isn't enough. You also have to make sure that the signals you're sending the production monitor are correct. There's a sub-industry making signal converters for signals from NLE video cards (usually RGB based) -> signals for production monitors (usually YUV based).
    That said, it is certainly possible to get a very good match between your NLE suite and a DVD / BD as displayed on an HDTV. But it's not as simple or easy as a calibrtated computer monitor for still photography use.
    This is probably part of your problem. But Quicktime is probably the root of it. Quicktime is, well, I guess the polite way of saying it is that Quicktime is problematic. It gives all kinds of problems. Most people have abandoned it. You should too.

  • Color shifts when exporting a picture sequence in both FCP/Compressor

    For a project I had to make a movie from still images. I imported the .tiff files and edited them in the right order. Then I added transitions and motion to the images (zoom in or zoom out). When I playback the sequence in Final Cut Pro everything looked perfectly fine. But when I exported to Quicktime... from both Final Cut Pro itself as from Compressor I got strange color shifts. I rendered like 10 times and every time two or three photo's were affected with a purple/blueish haze over them. Finally, the 11 time I tried it rendered as it was supposed to. It felt like playing Russian roulette.
    The question that is bugging me: what can have caused this?
    I tried both HDV and ProRes as timeline setting. What is the best setting for working with still images? And is .tiff the best format to work with or can I better convert to .png or .jpeg?
    I hope someone can tell me what happened that horrible night.

    The problem is that you haven't answered Jerry's question. it is very difficult to troubleshoot these sort of questions from a distance if you don't systematically check for the obvious things. Jerry is one of the best resources here and if he suggests a possible solution, it's a good idea to explore that first.
    Message was edited by: Michael Grenadier

  • Color shift when exporting to sRGB (mac)

    I just noticed the following: when I export an image (shot with my Nikon D80, RAW, developed from within Lightroom 2) as JPEG, 100%, sRGB color space, I get a strange color shift towards red, more saturated colors. Everything looks great when I view my image after export from within Finder or Apple Preview. However, when I drag that same file into the browser (Firefox) or then order prints from a photo service, the heavy red color shift is noticable. I've attached an image for you guys to see what I mean.
    What am I doing wrong? Can someone please help?
    I'm thinking that it might have to do with my color calibration? (I calibrated my monitor using the Spyder3 Elite device)
    Edit: By the way, I just turned off my color calibration (changed display profiles), but that didn't fix the problem. Also, the color shift is not visible in Safari (I guess it is able to handle color profiles and Firefox isn't). But still, the color shift is there if I upload photos to a photo printing service and order prints. So, maybe there's something wrong with the color profile that Lightroom embeds in the JPEG file??

    Problem continues (2)...
    ...from both Nikon and Canon RAW sources (I use a 5D MkII), but is it an LR3 issue or a Mac issue? Having read all the posts, I'm still struggling, but here's my contribution.
    A while ago I noticed that colour files, once uploaded to the net, were way too red and saturated as per image below. Resolutions attempted so far below (all to no avail):
    Tested different web browsers; found Firefox and Safari to be similar (to each other), Chrome very much brighter, but none of them are even close to original, so I'm not sure the Firefox loss of colour management mentioned by another contributor explains the issue.
    Change web display vehicle; I find the same on my new web site as I did on Jalbum and various others.
    Calibrate monitor (of course). Screen to output is 99% perfect on this monitor, when soft proofed with correct ICC profiles, so I very much doubt the wide gamut monitor is at fault. (I do find it hard to agree with the notion of it being the wide gamut screen. The whole point of a wide gamut screen is that it cn show a wider range of colours (e.g. in Adobe 98), and when an image's colour space is reduced (e.g. to sRGB) a wide gamut screen can still show that - especially if it is the same screen that didn't have this problem a year ago...).
    Looked at images on a narrow-gamut screen. Same problem.
    Changed colour space from Adobe 98 to ProPhoto in LR3 & CS3. Suspected mismatch between LR3 and CS3 because RAW files converted to DNG and edited in LR3, then pixel edited in CS3 and returned to LR3, come back in a different colour. Using ProPhoto has resolved that particular problem, but made no difference to faulty JPG display once on net.
    Tested JPG conversion compared to other file formats; match between JPG and original RAW and PSD files perfect, whether displayed in LR3, CS3 or Preview, and whether exported to JPG from LR3, CS3 or Bridge. Problem definitely only occurs once images are on web.
    Does anybody know anyone who doesn't have this issue and is using LR3 on a Mac with CS3 and OS 10.5.8?
    Any updates or new ideas most welcome.

  • Color shift during export

    I have just completed a project in Final Cut and I'm now ready to export to DVD Studio and I tried "Export to Quicktime Movie" but the overall colors became brighter. I've done plenty of color correction and I have my monitors calibrated and I see a BIG diference in brightness level.
    What is the most accurate way of getting this project directly to DVD format or HD DVD format without any color shifts or further adjustments? And converting the audio to AC3.
    The project is all in HDV 720p24 from a JVC HD101 camera.
    The length is 15 min 15 sec 19 frms
    I plan to put this on a SD DVD and make a HD DVD image ready so I can burn once I've bought a HD burner.
    Thanks

    Now I opened the same file in FCP and the colors are as the original ones, this must be because there's a diference in color spaces.
    Most people won't be watching this on FCP but other players like quicktime or windows media player and I would not like them to see this shift in colors.
    And what about DVD players?
    If I drop this clip into DVD Studio Pro and see that the colors are like the original (though I still need to go through compression) will the colors remain the same when I use my Apple DVD Player and not shift like quicktime does?

  • Colors shift when a PDF file contains transparent image

    Hello,
    I tried to programatically set a soft mask to an image by using the Addobe PDF Library, in order to make part of the image transparent. The image color space is RGB. I used PDEImageSetSMask() funtcion for setting the mask. I also have a PDF file that was created in the same way but without the part of the code that sets the mask. Therefore this PDF contains the same image as not transparent.
    When I open two files in Adobe Reader 9.2.0 the colors are not the same. The colors in the file which contains the transparent image are a bit darker. The colors are different not only inside the image box, but in all page area. I also tried to open the same file in GSView and there was no such problem.
    Can I fix this by changing the Adobe reader preferences, or this is a problem in the code that genereates the PDF?
    If this is not the correct forum to ask this question, please direct me to the correct forum
    Thanks

    You need to set the transparency blending space of the page to RGB, since the default blending space is CMYK (hence the color shift).  You do this by adding a transparency group dictionary to the page's dictionary when creating the PDF.

  • Color shift on Export

    I am getting a slight color shift when I export or open in Photoshop CS3. It is very similar to the shift that happened with Bridge CS3 beta before they updated it. The shift seems to be a decrease in brightness, color and contrast.
    My settings in Lightroom for open in Photoshop are to use TIFF, 16 bit, ProPhotoRGB, no compression. CS3 is set for ProPhotoRGB as working color space.
    Any thoughts on this color shift. I can't get a decent print either, might be related. My monitor is calibrated and profiled.
    PS, I looked for this in other threads but couldn't find it. Sorry in advance if this is already being discussed.

    Sorry mate have no idea with PC's, hope someone will see this.

  • Color "shifted" in CS4 RAW files

    Hello everyone.
    Ill try to explain my problem. Until last year I used ACR (combined with Bridge CS3) to color manage my images. Then I would convert them to DNG using the Adobe DNG Converter, and bring them into iMatch (www.photools.com), which is the program I use to manage my image database. I would work with a calibrated monitor, and a sRGB color profile.
    The DNG images would look the same in Bridge and iMatch, and if I extracted the JPG preview from any DNG image it would also look the same.
    This year I bought a new laptop and a CS4 license (previously I was doing the CS3 work using a license from the place I work at). Ive calibrated my laptop screen with a Pantone Huey Pro screen calibrator.
    When I open my images in CS4 the color in all of them looks "shifted", as if the white balance was off. They look consistently greenish and somewhat washed out. This happens in Bridge, ACR and Photoshop.
    However, if I open any of the JPG images (the ones that I created extracting the preview from the DNG files) they look the way they should. So from this I can infer that it can't be a screen calibration problem (otherwise both the JPG and its DNG counterpart would look wrong, instead of just the DNG).
    So it seems like CS4 is rendering the DNG images differently than it should. But I havent been able to find out how to correct the problem.
    Some other info: In the ACR flyout menu I have Image Settings selected, and under the Camera Calibration I have Embedded selected. Ive already tried (at the suggestion of Adobe support) to reset the Bridge preferences by holding CTRL+Shift when Bridge loads, but this hasnt corrected the problem.
    Also, here are my system specs,:
    - Precision M6400: Intel Core 2 Duo P8600(2.4GHz,1066MHz,3MB)
    - Display : 17in Widescreen WUXGA (1920X1200)
    - Memory : 4096MB (2x2048) 1067MHz DDR3 Dual Channel
    - Graphics card: 1GB NVIDIA Quadro FX3700M (with 1GB dedicated memory)
    - Hard Drive : 200GB Serial ATA (7200RPM)
    - Operating System : WXP Pro SP3
    I have already contacted Adobe support about this a few days ago, but so far no luck. So I thought Id try the forums as well and see if anyone here has any theories as to what the problem could be. Im stuck until Im able to solve this, so any help would be appreciated.
    Thanks.

    Hello,
    I'm still having trouble with this same issue, wondering if anyone has further thoughts.
    I've read some of the similar threads, like: http://forums.adobe.com/message/1203718 and  http://forums.adobe.com/message/1203965
    But I'm still confused.
    I hadn't noticed the color shifts in Bridge being so pronounced until recently.  So maybe something got inadvertently reset?
    It would be a bad idea to change my computer's color profile to generic sRGB (as someone suggested), since I have a good calibrated color profile via the Gretag MacBeth (yeah, it's older) EyeOne Display. I've used that calibration device for years, updating every 6-12 months. Never been a problem.
    It doesn't make any sense to me that Bridge should alter the colors of thumbnails/previews for RAW images (from the very good looking camera setting) before I even open Camera Raw to work on the RAW images.  I don't work on every single RAW image, and doubt anyone does.  But if I have 50 landscape shots, and the mere act of looking at their previews in Bridge turns all their skies unnaturally purple (which is currently happening), I lose any visual record of what the skies really looked like -- or at least a much closer approximation.
    My Canon 40D's jpg previews for RAW images are quite good when they initially show up in Bridge.  I'd really like to keep them until I work in Camera Raw, to give me a good visual memory starting point until I can get to work in ACR.  Sometimes I don't start serious work on an image for many months after shooting.
    Someone please correct me if I'm wrong, but it also doesn't make sense to me that a solution is to make a new Camera Raw default based on a photo I've worked on in ACR, because the color settings always depend on the lighting situation a photo was taken in, don't they? How could a daylight photo's settings be right for an indoor or sunset shot with totally different lighting and color temps?
    Bottom line question:  Is there any way to prevent Bridge from altering the color in thumbnails/previews of RAW images before you've worked on the images in Camera Raw?  (Even if you click on a thumbnail to see the preview in Bridge, I mean.)
    Thank you very much!!!
    ~Glenn
    Message was edited by: glennooo - for clarity and to fix a link

  • H.264 Magenta (color) Shift on Export

    The details:
    MBP 17" i7 Quad core (2011)
    Adobe Premiere 5.5.2
    AVCHD 1080p/24 "FX" 24mbps from an FS100
    The problem: I've made slight color adjustments to some interviews I shot to get the skintones spot on, but when I export using the "h.264" preset, I get a weird magenta shift. Screenshot below.
    The top left image is the "correct" color, which is an h.264 exported with the Quicktime wrapper. However, the compression sucks using this method! It looks terrible and the files are larger. The bottom left image uses the h.264 preset, which resolution-wise looks great, but what is going on with this magenta shift!
    Have to deliver to a client soon, would love help/answers/solutions/tips.
    Thanks,
    James

    I'll post a screenshot tomorrow morning when I'm in the office. I'm interested in what setting would shift the hue on export...
    I'm going to try a few things.
    First, send the project through After Effects and see if the issue persists.
    Second, transcode (some) of the media to a different format and run through the same process.
    Third, attempt an x264 transcode of some kind
    Fourth, run the h264 export as 2 pass VBR (friend on twitter said it might fix the issue)
    I'm totally surprised by this issue. Either I'm totally oblivious, or this is a new problem....
    Thanks guys!

  • Color shift when exporting to tiff

    Hi,
    I have a vector image which I created using multiply transparency layers, however when I export it to tiff or import it to psd, the color changes (it gets darken).  The ai file is in cmyk.
    The image is intended for print and will most likely be place in a word document. How should I set the color setting/profile so that I could get a consistent color across the different file formats?
    Thanks so mcuh for you guys help!!!!

    Hi Kwaim
    Please do a test:
    You take an object and set multiply to interact with others, ok? So select that object and all object underneath influenced or token by multiply. Go to Object > Rasterize. Select high for the resolution.
    After process, color changes?
    If yes, stop and report me
    If no, try exporting to tiff and tell me results
    Gustavo.

  • Color Shifting when exporting AVID DNxHD

    Hey everybody,
    I'm stuck.  I have been have warp stabilization problems in Premeire CS6, so now Im using AE to do the work.
    Im noticing that when I export my clips using Quicktime - Codec DNxHD, 1080p, 23.976, 175, 10 bit. Color Space 709
    When I re-import the clip back into Premiere the colors are darker.  I'm not putting the clips into another program,
    just render files out of Premeire (DNxHD) and import them back in.
    I really need help, I'm having to manually color correct the footage to match the original footage.
    The project footage is Canon 7D H264.  Plus Premeire CS5 didn't have this issue.

    You're welcome!
    For now you can try either Lagarith or UT:
    Lagarith: http://lags.leetcode.net/codec.html
    UT: http://www.free-codecs.com/download/ut_video_codec_suite.htm
    Both codecs are free!
    /Roger

  • Colored bands on exported master files

    I have been using Aperture mostly for selecting, cataloging and processing RAW files. I recently had the time to import my work from film sources. These files open and display fine in Photoshop. I imported these files into Aperture projects and added key words. These files are tif and psd files without layers and between 12 to 40Mo in size. They all display fine in Aperture. I have not made any adjustments on any of the files. They are all RGB.
    When I export a version from them, there is no problem. However, when I export the master, I get colored bands on the masters, any where from one band to 10 or more. Not all the files have this problem. I deleted some of the problem files from Aperture, reimported and tried again. To no avail. I also tried exporting the same master several times and sometimes the banding is no longer present after these several tries, which seems very odd indeed.
    After export from Aperture, I open the files in Photoshop where I see this banding. When opening in Photoshop, some files get an error message saying the file was damaged by a disk error. The same file opened in photoshop without having been first imported into Aperture does not get this error.
    I looked at some problem files directly in the Aperture library by opening the package contents and those files open in Photoshop without any banding.
    Here is a link to a sample of what I am getting:
    http://homepage.mac.com/shiyinjia/Aperture/colorbands.jpg
    I cannot say for sure whether this problem existed before the 10.4.6 came out. But some of the files exhibiting this problem were indeed imported prior to this update. I am running Aperture 1.01.
    I have searched on this forum for posts of similar problems and didn't find any, but if there were, please be so kind as to direct me to them! Thanks for any insights you might have into this problem!
    Jeff
    Powerbook G4 12 inch 1.33, PowerMac G5 dual 2.7   Mac OS X (10.4.6)   X800 XT
    Powerbook G4 12 inch 1.33, PowerMac G5 dual 2.7   Mac OS X (10.4.3)  

    Ok here is what I've found out. I imported the original without the banding into Aperture, on export to master I got the banding. Then I thought ok, I'll copy and paste the image in photoshop into a new document, flatten it and save it as a PSD again. I imported that. Export as master on this file also gives banding but slightly different. Then I decided to apply a light gausian blur to the whole image in photoshop. Did this, saved it and imported and then exported in Aperture. It does not have the banding.
    I'm not sure what this means other than you have a corrupt file. It could be you have a bad hard drive, or corrupt media that it was stored on (cds can deteriorate as well as external drives.) Anyway, somewhere something has corrupted this file (and maybe othere stored on the same media.)
    So as stated before make sure you back up your entire main hard drive ASAP. Don't just back up your photos, back up everything thats important to you.
    Back up any non-duplicated info on any external drive you have as well. Then boot your computer using the a Mac OS X install disk and check for hard drive errors. Check all your externals for errors too. If nothings shows up, Disk Warrior might not be a bad investment, just for the piece of mind. Also back up any cd/dvds you might have photos stored on by copying the contents to your hard drive and then burning a new cd because if you have DVDs or CDs that are faultering, they're only going to get worse as time goes on.
    This does not necesarily mean you have a bad drive or disks, but chances are if this is happening with multiple files there probably is a problem with your storage and it's better be safe than sorry. If this has happened to one or two files, it could just be a case of a bad file, that had an error while be written to, or just got corrupted.
    Good luck.

  • Aperture is color shifting my exports

    I work with 48 bit TIFF images (color & b+w) imported from SilverFast 64 bit HDR images that were processed down to 48 bit. Tonight I became aware of a disturbing color cast which I initially assumed was a color space profile issue with Photoshop CS5. However, I realized that the case is visible in the copy that is made even before Photoshop loads.
    The cast is best described as selectively taking some of the brightest areas and ratcheting up the gamma, giving the shadows an implausible (gross) sheen. I have Aperture configured to export 16 bit TIFF files with no embedded profile. Meanwhile, b+w images seem to get darker. I'll reiterate that this happens on both TIFF and JPG exports.
    The weird thing is that if I make a duplicate of the image from the master image and export that (whether to Photoshop 5 or as a JPG) then the file seems to come out fine.
    What is messing with my photos?

    How's it supposed to work if there's no embedded color profile?
    You should embed a color profile -- likely Adobe RGB for those TIFF files.

Maybe you are looking for