Commitment carryforward (Former budgeting)
Dear all,
After having upgraded from 4.6C to ECC 6.0, we tried to cancel commitment carryforward (RFFMCCFR) and we obtained the following message : "no item found for the reversal of the commitment carryforward". Table FMIOI is well updated with amount type 0350.
Can u help me ?
Thanks
Hello Jean-Didier,
After an upgrade, table FMIT might not be correctly updated, and this may also cause problems in CF processes.
Please have a look at this note and follow its instructions:
977016 FMIT: Missing totals records in Funds Management
check whether RFFMRC04 shows any inconsistency and let us know, Ok?
thanks and best regards, Mar
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Can anyone please explain in brief what is the difference between the Payment budget and Commitment budget?
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So, you want the budgetary document to be posted in local currency? I don't ask for reasons, though, as you probably know, even if the document is posted in foreign currency, local currency amount would be also there and the AVC would be performed also in local currency. But, if you need to change the currency, you can indeed use this BADI and modify I_BUDGET_ENTRY_DOC_SENDER and I_BUDGET_ENTRY_DOC_RECEIVER parameters, changing the currency and the amount.
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We are going to migrate our system from FB (Former Budgeting) to BCS, in the middle of the current year.
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Are you thoroughly clear on the concept and functionality of Budget Control System?
Compared to FB, BCS provides changes to 2 main functionalities in PSM-FM:
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-> This means, that the processes / functionalities / technical details for commitments/actuals are not changed in any way by implementing / migrating BCS.
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Also, you might want to consider if the migration of the old budget data is overall an absolutely mandatory requirement. Technically, you do not need to run any migration, but you can use old FB reports for previous fiscal years and just simply load only future budgeting data into the BCS. At my customer it was decided that no migration is needed, and we went successfully live with BCS withtout any issues. For past fiscal years they will be using FB reports.
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Edited by: Mikko Seppänen on Jan 2, 2012 9:31 AM -
Hi Guys,
We have to configure the "Funds Management" Module for our client. What would you guys suggest we should opt for
1. Former Budgeting
2. Budget Control Systems
Appreciate and value your suggestion and if some one has the latest documentaion available for BCS, can you please forward or atleast tell us where to look for it.
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SaqibHi Saqib,
Please find below mentiones some important point wise comaprison of both BCS Vs budgeting.
BCS:The functions in this component support budget planning, budget execution and allow you to monitor the availability of funds.The budget control system (BCS) in Funds Management is an alternative to former budgeting. BCS is designed to allow flexible customer-specific adjustments to all important functions. BCS is SAPs strategic budgeting tool.
Implementation Considerations:If you use the Grants Management component integrated with Funds Management, only BCS fulfills the prerequisites necessary for this. This also applies if you want to work with funded programs for the account assignment. The required FM account assignment elements Grant and Funded Program are only supported in BCS.
SAP does not intend BCS and Former Budgeting to be used at the same time. Therefore, menu transactions, functions and the necessary Customizing are separate.
If you want to use the budget control system as an operative budgeting tool in Funds Management, you must activate this in the Customizing of Funds Management, under Basic Settings->Activate Global Functions for Budget Control System ( BCS).
Integration:All other FM master data is also supported in BCS, as well grant and funded program master data.
BCS includes an integrated planning tool with basis functions for budget planning. If you want to use comprehensive budget planning, you can exchange data with SAPs Strategic Enterprise Management.
You can use BCS together with Position Budgeting and Control (PA-PM-PB).
The Business Information Warehouse System (BW) is intended as a comprehensive reporting tool for the budget control system, starting from Release 3.0B. You can upload your BCS planning data from BW. BCS only works with Funds Management and Grants Management, not with other components that can also budget.
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· Customer-definable budget types, entry document types and consistency checks in BCS Budgeting allow you to map the requests of your organization in the system.
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· Status Management allows you to subdivide the budget execution process in individual budgeting phases and define specific user roles through different authorization assignments.
· The BCS Availability Control is a flexible tool that you can customize to monitor and compare budget values and commitment/actual values. This control allows you to use independent availability control checks simultaneously.
Restrictions:The budget control system delivered with the Enterprise-Release (EA-PS 1.10) is new and will be enhanced with additional functions in following releases.Functions such as revenues increasing the budget and releases are supported with release EA-PS 2.00. SAP also provides support for migration from Former Budgeting to BCS.
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HI Gurus,
We have configured with update Profile 350 ;commitment and Payment budgets ( Former Budgeting).
For Procurement : Purchase Requisition and Puchase Order Level
For Cosumption : Goods Issue and FI direct Invoice (i.e: Exp Dr and Vendor Cr).
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Please clear me the Budget transactions updated.
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Khushru -
Hi,
Can any one help in which table we can find Commitment item for the budget enter along with fund center and amount (Entry document or Hierarchy Document data).
I have checked the following tables, none of the table have the account number, only fund center is available.
Former Budgeting Tables
BPBK Hierarchy document header
BPDK Entry document header
BPEJ Hierarchy documt lines for annual budget
BPDZ Entry document lines
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VenkatHi,
Please check the tables
FMBL, FMBH, FMBDT
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I am facing a problem in my system for Commitment line items & budget check.
I followed the below steps:
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5. When I check in the report S_ALR_87013558 the commitments are not showing in the report.
6. After I performed the PO & GR (the PO value is more than the budget), still it is not producing any error message.
7. I have even consumed the material, for which the cost is more than the budget, still there is no error message from the system.
8 . I tried to perform transfer posting of the material from other plant or initial posting of the goods using 561 Q, at that time the system is producing the error message.
9. When I check the above report after GR & GI the actual line items are showing.
The problem is that why system is not creating the commitment line items.
In customization I have maintained as below:
1. Budget profile
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3. Maintained the tolerance limits for the controlling area and budget profile combination.
4. I have created the B/S G/L accounts as cost elements with category 90 (statistical).
5. AVAC for the WBS elements is active for the WBS elements
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Why system is not writing commitment line items?
Even after writing the Actual line items why the error message is not produced?
I am understanding that since the GR from PO is being done, probably this GR is not producing the error message as it is linked with the PO commitment. But at the time of GI the error message should be produced.
Can any one help me for solving this issue?
I tried searching the forum before posing, but couldnot get a relevant one.
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PraveenDear Nitin,
Yes I have checked it and the commitment management is active.
I also checked the table RPSCO table as well, there is no entried with the value key 21 or 22, the entires are available with 41 only for my project.
Also, I was maitaining the WBS element in a maintenance order. When I am trying to enter the materials in componenet tab, if the value is exceeding the budget value it is producing the error message.
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PSM-FM Commitment Carryforward
Dear Experts,
I have a problem when performing commitment carryforward.
I am using Funds to represent each quarter of a year, this object is derived in FMDERIVE by posting date.
When performing commitment carryforward I need to change the fund assigned to the commitments for a new one.
I'm already using the derivation strategy for reclassification. But, when performing commitment carryforward I get an error message because this strategy is not consistent with FMDERIVE.
Can you help me solve this problem?
Thanks in advance.
Kind regards,
Joana MensuradoHi,
"The message is the following:
Reassignment of account assignment element Fund not possible
Message no. FMCF108
Diagnosis
The Define Account Assignment Derivation is not compatible with the Define Derivation Strategy for Reassignment. The value 0 was determined for document no. 4000000258, the reassignment strategy for account assignment element Fund. However, this was overwritten with value 4 through the account assignment derivation of Funds Management.
System Response
The document is not processed.
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Hi,
I want to have control over my commitments and payments. Is it possible to maintain both commitment and payment budget separately?
Moderator: Yes, it depends on the Update Profile. Please, read help.sap.com material for PSM-FMExample of payment budget
Use update profile 101 and you will have a payment budget. this means:
earmarked funds (reservations, precom, com) are updated in the FM ledger payment budget
real (invoice and payments) are also updated in FM ledger payment budget. Attention. if you are in release before 5.0 you have to run RFFMS200 program in order to see the invoices paid. In ECC 6.0 it is online if you are a new FM customer.
Via MM PR, PO, GR, invoices MIRO and payments are also updated in FM ledger payment budget
Example of parallel ledgers commitment budget and payment budget
You can not use only commitment budget ledger if you want to see your real invoices and payments
Some clients like EU and others use separate FM ledgers. Then you have to enter twice data in the two ledgers.
Then they use update profile for this like 500 or 350(please check).
Commitments (earmarked funds and PR, PO) update the ledger commitment budget and invoices and payments are updated in ledger commitment budget.
Hope this is a litle bit clear.
Before implementing FM it is important to ask what your client wants and ask if you don't know the best update profile to use to SAP AG
ciao
Salvator
PSM-FM Consultant
Suisse -
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I am looking for a document/guide which can explain the salient feature of BCS and how the same is more beneficial compared to Former budgeting.
Additionally, help is also sought on how to migrate from former budgeting to BCS upon upgrade in ECC 6.0?
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ManojHi Manoj,
You can follow this link.
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_erp60_sp/helpdata/en/a6/17f53b9f150248e10000000a11402f/frameset.htm
It explains clearly the benefits of BCS as well as migration tools that SAP provides. If you do not have some non-standard enehancements in your Former Budgeting, then migration won't be a problem.
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Can anyone tell me the main difference between former budgeting and BCS.
Kind Regards,
Rajini.Hi,
BCS is more flexible solution with much more firendly interface and many features in term of availability control. http://help.sap.com/saphelp_erp60_sp/helpdata/en/a6/17f53b9f150248e10000000a11402f/frameset.htm
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