Consolidating with two controlling areas
Hi
We are looking to implement JVA on our SAP system, and for this there will be requirement for a second controlling area to be created.
We see this as causing us problems regarding consolidation in BCS u2013 We were wondering if anyone knows if it is possible to consolidation in BCS with two controlling areas?
Thanks
I'm assuming that you are creating a second Controlling Area for a second year end (since you are looking at JVA)? If some other reason, don't bother with reading the rest of my post.
We are currently using two Controlling Areas due to the fact that we also invest in many joint ventures. Our corporate year-end is January 31, while many of the JVs are December 31.
For BCS, we are defaulting the Fiscal Year Variant to the January 31 value when the data is brought in via Load from Data Stream (we hard-coded the assignment in the mapping). Our requirement is only to consolidate for our corporate year-end, which is why we are able to do this. Since BCS is based on periods (and not calendar date), the data is brought in as follows: December 31 year-ends come in a month ahead (i.e. the month of January data is actually period 12 of the previous year for BCS, even though it is actually that company's fiscal period 1, the month of February is period 1 of the following year for BCS, etc.); meanwhile, our January 31 companies come into BCS in line with our corporate year-end (i.e month of January data is period 12 for both the company itself and BCS).
Hope this makes sense.
Jim Link
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