Copy secondary costs from plan to plan

Hi,
I have a allocations question.
We're freezing (copying) our plan values every year to say plan version B0.
Every quarter we'd like so copy another version with the changes made to plan values since the last copy, let's call this versions A1 - A4.
Now we'd like to keep the allocated values (which are secondary costs) from version B0 and copy those to A1 - A4, without having to run them another time in A1 - A4 again.
I know KP97 can not copy secondary costs and only manually planned costs but is there a way to get the secondary costs which are still sitting in B0 into the quarterly estimates A1 - A4?
Any suggestions welcome.
Thanks for your help,
Roland

Hi,
a plan assessment cycle contains CO-version information in its header date.
You can use KSU7 to copy a plan assessment cycle from version A to version B, just enter CO-version B in the header data of the copied cycle and ensure that in "sender values" the version is initial (thus the header data CO-version takes place).
BR Christian

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Complete allocation structure Z1
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Diagnosis
During settlement, the system puts the sender debits into groups (assignments), which are settled using the same settlement cost element. The settlement assignment is made in the allocation structure, which is stored in the settlement rule for the sender (under settlement parameters).
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Edited by: Sridhar Nagavarapu on Jul 4, 2008 12:47 AM

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