Costing Sheet & Percentage OH Dependancy

Dear All,
Our client has 3 plants & 3 business areas corresponding to each plant.
Now while creating overhead percentage rates, we need to mention Dependacy like OH Type/plant or OH Type/Business area.
My questions are-
a) Which dependancy to be used in the given scenario?
b) We have identified 3 OH rates viz. Production OH, Admn OH & Sales & distn OH. We are creating 3 Costing Sheets. So how many OH rates should be created? Is it 3 OH rates & the dependancy will take into account different % rates as per plant or Business Area? or Should we create 3 x 3 = 9 OH Rates for each Costing Sheet?
Eagerly awaiting for your reply,
Gov

Hi jayram,
I ll give the scenario.
Plant 1000 Business Area 1000
Plant 2000 Business Area 2000
Plant 3000 Business Area 3000
Overheads - 1) Production OH
2) Admin OH
3) Sales & Distn OH
So we felt that we should create 3 costing sheets. It was thought with the intention that we will have 3 different OH percentages. That time I forgot this dependancy factor.
After taking into account your point, I feel that we can work with only one costing sheet. Are you suggesting the same?
Will it take care of different OH percentages in different business areas? Here as shown earlier, the business area is same as plant. So the OH % is same,even you take into account plant or business area.
I think we have to create 3 costing variants & valuation variants for 3 plants.
So from this, what will you suggest?
Thanks,
Gov

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