Costs of collective order

Hai,
I am working on collective orders. I have created a collective order having child orders and all steps completed for this collective order like release,confirmation and GR. Now i want to see thwe costs of this collective order.how tosee them full collective order wise and for each child order, Can anybody help me out

Mario -
KB15N worked perfectly. I did get an error the 1st time I tried it: "Manual Cost allocation" is not allowed, but I found another forum posting with the same error (messages BS027) that helped me resolve that problem (you need to enable manual allocations via transaction BS12 first).
Thanks for your help!
- Jason

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For the order type which you're using, go to OPJH & in the section Cost Controlling tick the check box which says Coll. order with goods movement
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I have the following question/scenario:
We create prodction order to collect cost (hours) for a service. There exists also a material master for this service.
The confirmed hours are posted on the production order and then setteld to the respective sales order (settlement rule SDI).
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Edited by: Butch66 on Sep 27, 2010 7:07 PM
Edited by: Butch66 on Sep 27, 2010 7:08 PM

Hi
Planned costs from prod order can not show on sale order.. Both are 2 separate entities in their own respects
Unless you calculate sales order cost estimate on your sales order, you cant see planned costs on sale order...
To calculate sale order cost estimate, make settings in your requirement class...
1. Go to procurement tab of sale order
2. See whats the requirement type
3. Go to IMG > Controlling > Prod cost Contr > Cost Obj Contr > Prod Cost by Sales Order > Control of Requirements
4. Here you can see mapping of req type to req class....
5. If you want to have sales order costing and have sales order as CO object inorder to have sales order wise profitability, you should have following settings in Req class...
>Acct Assignment Category should be E
>Costing: Either Blank or X
>Costing Id and Costing Method: As per your requirement
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hi ALL, this is the real task for all PP GURUS.
the issue is related with collective order confirmation.
client is using customised program ZPP_CONF to confirm the collective order which is based on the sap spro program CORUPROC.this include automatic goods receipt,backflush & actual cost update .as user use zpp_conf for confirmation all this actions happened in backgruond.
now after using ZPP_CONF . the confirmation is not happening .instead of that it is going in COGI where they are getting a error massage which is as follows
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this is not happening for all orders but for 8 out of 10.
users have proper authorisations.
they have enough stocks in st. locn.
they are loosing lot of time becuse of this.
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when i search i found this is written in the CORUPROC documentation
Incl. incorrect goods movement: Not only preselected but also incorrect goods movements that are usually processed with transaction COGI are selected and processed.
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Hi,
The Program CORUPROC only can adjust the Errors in Goods movements. It can not handle the Table Locks..
The Program CORUAFWP, can taek care of table locks also, apart from the Errors in Goods Movements.
Refer below thread for similar type of problem..
COGI errors
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How to trigger the creation of Collective orders.
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Hi,
Collective Orders
Use
In a collective order, planned orders or production orders are linked to one another over several production levels. Each order in the collective order has its own order number. If subassemblies are produced directly for superior orders within a production process, without physically entering the warehouse, it is useful to have a representation via collective orders.
The components for which separate production orders are created in the collective order are called directly produced components (see Creating Collective Orders)
Prerequisites
A collective order cannot be created for components that have one of the following indicators set:
· Co-product
· By-product
· Alternative item with strategy 2
· Alternative item with usage probability 0
· Discontinued
· Follow-up material
· Intra material
Features
Collective orders offer the following advantages:
· Integrated view of a production process
Collective orders make it possible to represent different levels of the production process together in the system. The production process can be viewed as an integrated whole.
· Separate order number for every order
Every level in a collective order represents a separate production order/planned order. Every production order/planned order has its own order number. This enables you to process the entire collective order, a subtree in the collective order or an individual order.
· No placements in storage or removals from storage between production levels
Within a collective order stock movements only take place for the leading order (that is, the order that is at the highest production level) and not for directly produced components. This makes it easier to maintain the collective order in comparison with several individual orders. A further advantage is a more realistic representation of the costs of the production process, since subordinate orders can be directly assigned and settled to superior orders.
· Business functions simultaneously for several orders
Certain business transactions can be carried out simultaneously for several orders. Releasing an order that belongs to a collective order has the effect that all the hierarchically subordinate orders are released simultaneously.
· Automatic change to dependent orders
Changes to an order automatically affect dependent orders / components affecting orders. For example, if you change the order quantity in an order then
¡ the relevant quantity changes are automatically made to dependent orders
¡ the requirements quantity of the directly produced component is automatically changed.
In the collective order, you also have the option of manufacturing directly produced material in a different plant to the planning plant.
· Set status in leading order
If you make changes in subordinate orders that have an affect on the status, then the system sets the corresponding status in the order header of the leading order in the collective order as follows:
u2013 CFCO Confirmation in collective order
u2013 GMCO Goods movements in collective order
u2013 RLNE Release taken place in network
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· Reading master data
You can copy the routing data and BOM data to the order again. You can find more information in Read master data.
Example
You want to produce a pump. The BOM for the pump contains a pressure regulating valve and a spiral casing. You want to enter these two components in separate production orders, but you do not want them to be posted to stock.
You set the special procurement type to direct production in the material master record for the pressure regulating valve and the spiral casing, so that production occurs using a collective order.
When you create a production order for the pump, a collective order is automatically created, which contains subordinate production orders for the pressure regulating valve and the spiral casing.
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Use
Collective orders are only created if the special procurement type is set to direct production in the components for which the separate production orders are to be created (materials planning area in the material master).
In the standard system, 52 is the special procurement type for direct production (that is, for components that are produced within a collective order).
To create a collective order, you must use an order type with internal number assignment.
Hope this helps.
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Dear Experts,
Can you look at this issue
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Hi
You should follow following steps for Order Settlement after confirmation :
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2. Then complete the order technically by using Tcode : CO02--> Functions ( Menu)---> Restrict Processing -
> Technically Complete. You can carry out TECO for multiple Orders in Tcode : COHV (Mass Processing).
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5.Calculate Variance by using Tcode : KKS2 - Individual Processing
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Edited by: Dublin on Oct 17, 2009 10:54 AM

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Hi Guru's
In the 4.6C version
If i got to Production order from transaction code CO03 , Read the collective order , highlight the toplevel item and ''GOTO'' in the menu bar and select Documented goods movement , the display shows the Top level order AND the Sub-Assemblies.
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In the ECC 6.0 Version
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To see the Goods Movement in the Sub-Assemblies you have to go to each production order individually.
can this be changed in ECC 6.0 exactly to that seen in 4.6c version .
pls give me your valuable inputs at the earliest .
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Hi satish,
In collective order struture ,Automatic goods movement will be happened between toplevel & lower level.
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Please also check with cost analysis for Goods movement.
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when I do the distribution from cost center to order with "ksu5
error message"不允许 "实际间接费用分摊"(ORD103601000058)"
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Edited by: DUNBAR XUE on Apr 22, 2008 10:53 AM

Well, there are other ways of doing this, than trying to assess using CCtr Assessment Cycles.
You could use a Costing Sheet to collect the costs and apportion to the material. This us the idea behind Overhead Cost Allocation.
Alternatively, you could use an Activity Based Costing template for the apportionment. Create a Business Process and have your Cost Centre assess costs to the Business Process by the end of the month. Now run template allocation and, all the config being okay (this is the catch), you will see this costs on the Production Order / Product Cost Collector / Material, etc.
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We are using collective orders for production orders. As you know collective processes are used for costing shared processes.
Let me explain the problem with an example: Say, we have product A and B to be produced. These two have shared operations and costs will be collected via collective orders by Tcode mill_oc.
The process is as below:
Production order 1 for product A. - Normal production order - CO01
Production order 2 for product B. - Normal production order - CO01
Production order 3 for product A - Collective production order - mill_oc
Confirmations are done for Order 3 during period. At the end of the period Order 3 is settled to Order 1 and Order 2 with certain proportions.
Actual activity price is calculated via Tcode:KSII. During CKMLCP the system valuates activities (posting price differences) for Order 3 product, Product A only. It must be the case that Product A and Product B have to be revaluated.
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Is there any OSS notes or solution for this problem? If there is huge activity price differences, all the value is posted to just one product, which is collective orders product, rather than both lower level orders' products.
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Hi Ahmet,
This is rather a problem of material ledger multi-level settlement than of activity pricing. Material ledger will pick up the actual activity price correctly and will use the difference against the former activvity price as multi-level price difference on the production process. The problem is, if there are multiple outputs coming out of the process, as is resulting of the order combination process, material ledger will by default search for a apportionment structure (for joint production) in the material master of the main (or original) output material. As nothing will be maintained there, all the differences will go to this material.
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Hello All -
I am trying to understand if I need to settle to a sales order (SDI) or directly to material (MAT) or to COPA (PSG).
If i look at my sales order, it has item category ZPSF, which product costs by sales order configuration shows a requirement class ZKE. ZkE has a valuation of M, which means separate valuation of reference to sales document/project.
Does this mean I need to settle to sales order first?
Then i run vA88 to settle sales order to copa?
if ZKE valuation is blank, does that mean its not valuated? I have read on other sap help pages that means it is valuated. Please clarify.
also, when does one directly settle to MAT? what scenarios? this confuses me.
Thanks!
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I'll give this a try. When working in a make-to-order environment there are 2 settings in the requirments class that you must consider in determining how to settle the costs (and maybe the revenue as well). The first setting is the account assignment category. In the standard system "E" is used to designate the sales order as a cost collector. "M" is used to if you don't want the sales order to be a cost collector. Whether the sales order is a cost collector or not will determine your settlement options.
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Product cost by sales order - conceptual clarity required

Hi,
We are a manufacturing company with both Make to Stock and Make to Order Scenarios. In cost object controlling, we have made the settings for product cost by order. Now, the question is whether product cost by sales order is a mandatory setting in MTO scenario. I understand this is a conceptual question but i never got the clarity after reading help files, threads and blogs.
I'll put down my understanding - pls correct me.
If i do the product cost by sales order, there will be a statistical cost object ie sales order. Now every cost incurred (with a component split) will be recorded stastically in the sales order in case of production orders created from S.O.s
If I don't do the setting i cannot get a component wise split for the cost of sales order to do any analyses. but still I'll have the COGS which i'll capture to COPA and take the profitability.
Can you please give me some more clarity on this scenario? Are there any other factors/ advantages/mandates in product cost by sales order?
Best Regards
Vimal

Hi Vimal
Prod Cost by SO is done in the case of MTO.. Here, you have 3 possible scenarios
A. Only Qty i.e. GR from Prod order is tagged to Sales Order.. Sales order is not a CO Object....
This scenario is as good as MTS... Only that GR is tagged to SO....
Your costs are collected on Prod order....
PGI uses GBB-VAX i.e. does not post to sales order... Billing updates revenue and COGS to costing based COPA
B. SO is cost obj with non valuated stock (SAP recommends this)
C. SO is cost obj with valuated stock...
B -
Prod Order is settled upon sales order.. GR from prod order does not update any acc doc
Sales order is settled to COPA.. Here you can use a PA Trf Str where in you have replicated your Cost Comp Str... i.e. You can create as many assignment lines in KEI1 as your CCS in OKTZ and assign each one of them to a separtae value field
No question of variances in this case
C
Prod order is not settled upon sales order.... GR from Prod order updates acc doc.... However, variance from prod order can be settled to the sales order if you create variance account as a cost element... Else, it is settled to COPA
Upon PGI, the COGS is posted to Sales Order as a single line item
Here, in your PA Trf Str, you would create an Assignment line and tick "Qty Billed/Delivered".... This would update the Billing Qty to COPA upon settlement of Sales order
This Qty update will trigger KE4R.... i.e. You need to assign CCS to VF in KE4R for PV=01 and Rec Type = C.... This would update the CCS in COPA as per the Sales Order cost estimate
The Costing Key in KE40 should refer to "Sales order cost estimate" and not "Std Cost estimate"
br, Ajay M

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Please tell me the process in product costing by sales order.
In my client place, i have done the configuration but i dont know the process.
Please guide me.
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Hi,
Product cost by sales order is useful when a finished product is manufactured for a specific customer rather than for the normal make-to-stock inventory. You can use the Product Cost by Sales Order component in the following situations:
When you are manufacturing in-house with reference to a sales order in complex make-to-order production
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3. Please explain me the end user part also.
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Hi,
Product cost by sales order is useful when a finished product is manufactured for a specific customer rather than for the normal make-to-stock inventory. You can use the Product Cost by Sales Order component in the following situations:
When you are manufacturing in-house with reference to a sales order in complex make-to-order production
When you are purchasing customer-specific trading goods with reference to a sales order and reselling them to your customers
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