CRM UI Strategy

Hi,
I hope most you know that SAP's UI strategy is ABAP webdynpro except SAP CRM.
SAP CRM is using BSP for its UI........is there any plan to move to ABAP wyndro for the forth coming release in CRM or SAP CRM will continue with BSP ????
Do you people have any idea on this??
please post it here.
Thanks

Shankar,
I would personally expect SAP shift the UI focus away desktop on-premise CRM in certain scenarios and strongly more focus on either mobile or on-demand solutions.  That being said, I'm not sure if SAP wants to spend the money to migrate CRM over to webdynpro ABAP, nor explain to customers why its a good business proposition.
The PCUI to Webclient UI was a pretty easy business case to sell.  The PCUI was not easy to use and difficult to maintain.  There would be need to be compelling story like the PCUI/SAP GUI to webclient UI migration in order for such a transition between webclient -> webdynpro to make sense.  Keep in mind even if it ever did happen the transition period would probably still be a long one.
Finally if you asked me to make the decision, I would say don't worry about migrating technologies and instead focus on a core mobile/ondemand solution instead as the replacement.  I don't see any business value right now in using web dynpro ABAP instead of the webclient UI for CRM. 
Take care,
Stephen

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    [WP] CRD_00
    78400 K
    79660 K
    118712 K
    122304 K
    23
    10540
    disp + work.EXE
    [WP] CRD_00
    74176 K
    75556 K
    117032 K
    122304 K
    22
    9756
    disp + work.EXE
    [WP] CRD_00
    68800 K
    70104 K
    119116 K
    122308 K
    20
    14664
    disp + work.EXE
    [WP] CRD_00
    67660 K
    68504 K
    119588 K
    122308 K
    21
    9980
    disp + work.EXE
    [WP] CRD_00
    83952 K
    84376 K
    117100 K
    122268 K
    24
    13556
    disp + work.EXE
    [WP] CRD_00
    56436 K
    56472 K
    114772 K
    122276 K
    17
    14672
    disp + work.EXE
    [WP] CRD_00
    129136 K
    131320 K
    124356 K
    129668 K
    76
    1352
    disp + work.EXE
    [WP] CRD_00
    70916 K
    72192 K
    120832 K
    122264 K
    22
    13632
    disp + work.EXE
    [WP] CRD_00
    76116 K
    77592 K
    121300 K
    122276 K
    23
    11784
    disp + work.EXE
    [WP] CRD_00
    52516 K
    52536 K
    115316 K
    122264 K
    16
    10580
    disp + work.EXE
    [WP] CRD_00
    82100 K
    82136 K
    115872 K
    122268 K
    23
    12872
    disp + work.EXE
    [WP] CRD_00
    52548 K
    52568 K
    115380 K
    122264 K
    16
    13732
    disp + work.EXE
    [WP] CRD_00
    62384 K
    62824 K
    117464 K
    122264 K
    21
    11824
    disp + work.EXE
    [WP] CRD_00
    52460 K
    52480 K
    115408 K
    122264 K
    16
    4668
    msg_server.EXE
    [MS] CRD_01
    14168 K
    14168 K
    15048 K
    15052 K
    3
    3332
    disp + work.EXE
    44684 K
    44684 K
    74600 K
    82528 K
    10
    Sum
    2358492 K 3037692 K
    **** Error 11 while initializing OS dependent part.*
    **** ERROR => DpEmInit: EmInit (1) [dpxxdisp.c 10428]*
    **** ERROR => DpMemInit: DpEmInit (-1) [dpxxdisp.c 10342]*
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    *DISPATCH EMERGENCY SHUTDOWN *** ****
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    NiISelect: maximum fd = 1
    NiISelect: read-mask is NULL
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    Sun Dec 25 11:11:58 2011
    NiISelect: occured TIMEOUT (10000ms)
    dump system status
    Workprocess Table (long) Sun Dec 25 13:11:58 2011
    ========================
    In Type Pid Status Cause Start Err RSTR No Time Program Cl User Action Table
    Dispatcher Queue Statistics Sun Dec 25 13:11:58 2011
    ===========================
    --------++++ -
    +
    Typ
    now
    high
    max
    writes
    reads
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    NOWP
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    2000
    0
    0
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    +
    DAY
    0
    0
    2000
    0
    0
    --------++++ -
    +
    UPD
    0
    0
    2000
    0
    0
    --------++++ -
    +
    ENQ
    0
    0
    2000
    0
    0
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    BTC
    0
    0
    2000
    0
    0
    --------++++ -
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    SPO
    0
    0
    2000
    0
    0
    --------++++ -
    +
    UP2
    0
    0
    2000
    0
    0
    --------++++ -
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    max_rq_id 0
    wake_evt_udp_now 0
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