Disappointment with Apple customer service's response to my iMac G5 issues

The following is a copy of the letter that I will be sending to Apple in regards to my recent dealings with customer service. What do you guys think I should do?
To whom it may concern:
Let me begin by saying that I have been a loyal and avid fan of the Mac since 1999. I have converted several of my PC friends to the Mac, and I would consider myself to be the quintessential Mac "geek" (posters, T-shirts, you name it). I have owned a Macintosh LC 575, Power Macintosh G3 (Blue & White) and Power Mac G4 Cube, in addition to my current machine, an iMac G5. However, my recent experiences with Apple customer support have left me thinking that maybe the Mac way is not the smooth, customer-first experience that I thought it was.
As I mentioned, I currently am using an iMac G5 (rev. A, 20" 1.8 GHz). Unfortunately, the iMac was a victim of the well-documented power supply issue (http://www.apple.com/support/imac/re...ensionprogram/) several months back. The power supply would heat up to such high temperatures that it eventually burned out, and I could not power on the machine. I brought it in to my local Apple Store (Oakbrook, IL), whereupon they wrote up a repair order, and I had my Mac back within 4 days, all without paying a penny. "Wow, excellent no-hassle service," I thought, and rightfully so.
Over the last couple of months, my iMac has further developed a couple of smaller, but still annoying and "not-very-Apple-like" issues. First, the fans have developed a consistent, cricket-like squeak - that is, you can hear the fans turning, sort of like an old wheel that needs oil. In my quiet office, it is VERY obvious, and is especially distressing when I'm trying to do audio and MIDI work. The second issue is that the slot-loading Superdrive has gotten to the point where discs that are being ejected often fly out of the slot and do not stop, falling onto the top of my desk, or occasionally clear off the desk onto the floor.
A few days ago, I decided that I had had enough with both issues, and decided to initiate a chat with a support agent on Apple's iMac support web page. After explaining the issues to the agent, I was transferred to a "specialist," to whom I then had to re-explain the issues. Further irritating me was the fact that they provided me no solution other than to visit my local Apple Store, and they would further diagnose the system.
So tonight I headed over to the Apple Store Oakbrook with the iMac in tow (mind you, not the lightest thing to be carrying around, and a pain to have to disconnect peripherals etc.). I had made an appointment prior to showing up...in fact, Apple's new Concierge system seemed very elegant and user-friendly, and I was able to make a 7:20pm appointment at around 2:30pm. I made it to the Apple Store at about 6:50pm, and saw my name listed on the Genius Bar screens as being 2nd in line. There was a man with a 15" PowerBook that was being helped by the Genius behind the bar, so I sat and waited patiently. About 40 minutes into my wait, a woman with an iPod mini walked up to the bar, seemingly waiting for assistance. Within two minutes, another Apple employee approached her, briefly looked at me and asked if I was waiting for help. When I said I needed assistance with my iMac, he told me that I would have to wait for the next Genius, turned to the woman with the iPod mini and proceeded to diagnose her problem.
Further irritated, I waited another 10 minutes or so, at which point the same employee turned his attention to me. I explained the fan and Superdrive issues to him, and he took the iMac to the back room for another employee to take a look at it. About 10 minutes later, he came back out with the iMac and said something to me that just floored me. He told me that his colleague that looked at it could not find anything inherently wrong with the fans, and that "since it's not a Pro desktop, there are bound to be squeaks in the fan system" (almost verbatim what he said). He said that they cleaned the fans, and tightened the eject mechanism in the Superdrive, and that if I continue to have issues with it to bring it back in and they will further diagnose it.
The message I have taken from this experience is two-fold. First, Apple has officially gone from being a computer company to a consumer electronics company. The fact that I literally was skipped over after waiting 40 minutes and pushed aside for an iPod user who had waited TWO minutes and was not in the Genius Bar queue shows that Apple's priorities have shifted. Secondly, Apple does not truly back the quality and craftsmanship on which they pride themselves. Just because I do not own a "Pro desktop," that should not mean that a squeaky fan system is an acceptable situation. I bought an $1,800 computer that was advertised as "whisper-quiet" and I should not have to pay $3,000+ just to be reassured that I will be taken care of. I expect excuses and glancing over of issues by companies like Dell that make cheap bare-bones systems. I do not expect that from Apple - if Apple is going to hold themselves to a higher standard, they should back up that talk with true customer-first service.
So I am now sitting in front of my rickety-sounding iMac, wondering what my next step should be. I appreciate you taking the time to read this, and I would further appreciate a follow-up and resolution to this situation.
Thoughts?

Send it. I feel for you, but the most sympathy you'll get is from fellow users on this board. These forums were one of the best ideas by Apple. Whoever thought it up is probably getting 1% of iPod sales as commission. Besides users helping users so Apple doesn't have to handle nearly as much tech support directly, this board is also a place for people to vent so Apple doesn't have to address your concerns. I'm not saying these boards are a bad thing ... they are very helpful, but you have better odds at winning the lottery grand prize than you do to get a reply back from Apple from a letter like this.

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    However, the problem came! I've waited for my rebate for half year, which was supposed to be three months. Therefore, I called apple for the promotion inquiry, they told me to mail my information again, and so I did. And I waited for another three months, they told me they mailed it to me already, but I never received it. Therefore, I do as they told- wait for another month and they'll mail my rebate to me again. Then, another month came, but I did not received my rebate! And during this two years, I kept calling for my rebate, and they said they will mail it to me, but I never ever received it! I felt like I got deceived! And last time I called, they told me the promotion is closed, but they'll still mail it to me. But again! they didn't! I tried to find anyone who can help me, I went to the retail store, I mail to a costomer service line, but they never ever helped me! My rebate was just a $100 dollar, but seems like Apple is not responsible and do not care about their customers, therefore, I told this to all my friends, and recommend them not to buy Apple.
    Apple owe me $100!
    My friend told me that Apple is not being responsible, they are lying to me that they mailed my rebate to me. It is because they should first file a lost track on the check that should be mail to me, and then mail my rebate back to me after they file it!
    I am so disappointed with Apple, and I'll recommend me and my friends, and try to declare to all the forums we should never purchase anything from Apple because they are not responsible for their costumers!
    I'll never stop declaring to the people that Apple is being not responsible until Apple is being responsible and would give me my rebate back!

    This is, of course, the wrong place for your gripe. There is nothing we can do about it. There is a legal presumption that a letter mailed is received, but it is rebuttable. Letters can get lost or extremely delayed, I had a postcard take six months from Denver to New York City. Go to Apple and insist that that you never got your check. What really counts is was it cashed. Insist that they check that.

  • I'm so disappointed with your costomer service in Taiwan

    I've purchased an Apple computer from 2007, I liked Apple so much because I saw they care their customers more than Microsoft, Apple even set Genius Bar and phone support for any technical problem, which I though if I have any problems, I can find customer services easily.However, the problem came! I 've some technical problem with my imac.Therefore,I took it to your  retail store(Istore) in Tainan Jhongshan Branch ,Taiwan. And you help me save the problems indeed.
    But the Imac is so heavy for me(155cm,44kgㄩㄡ) to carry it to your store where its located at.And I ask one of your sales to help me to take it.And he promissed  that he would transport it to me when I arrived immediately.  HOWEVER,the Store Manager told me that they are too busy to take it to me when I arrived and ask me  to wait, and so I did. I waited for 10 minutes,and NO Phones  or No body told me How Long I should wait for my imac. I called again,and the SAME ONE told me that they still are on busy.Then another 10 minutes came,but I did not receved my mac.
    YOU promissed me you would take it to me immediately,but you waisted my time about 20 minutes!!!A SALE is not just to sale something,especially you are the store manager!!!And it seems like Apple is not responsible and do not care about their customers when you had sold the production to them.I am so disappointed with Apple, and I'll recommend me and my friends, and try to declare to all the forums we should never purchase anything from Apple because they are not responsible for their costumers! For YOU Apple just want to sale and dig our money, BUT not care about us!!!

    We didn't promise you anything, or did we sell you anything nor take your money. You are not communicating with Apple when you post here. Everyone here is just a fellow user. And these forums are for assistance with technical problems, not complaining about Apple's services.
    I'm not going to comment on your complaint itself since we really don't know what the real situation was, none of us being there. In any case, there's absolutely nothing anyone here can do about it. If you feel that you were treated badly, then by all means buy from some other vendor.
    Regards.

  • Very disappointed with Apple! ...about my power adapter!

    Hi,
    My power adapter of my MacBook PRO failed 10 days ago. I went to the only Apple shop in the town and tried to buy one (Monday)... they told me that do not have it! They had all of that junk... but not a power adapter for my MacBook PRO 17 inch...
    They told me that they will be getting some on Friday... I waited for 5 days... When I went to the shop on Friday... they told me that they did not get any... What?!
    After spending 5 days without power... borrowing different adapters from my friends... I called a service point and managed to order one single power adapter after a 15 minute phone call... the adapter will be here on Thursday?!
    11 days... without power... I am very disappointed in Apple... I have been using apple products for a long time... I did not know that they are that bad in any kind of support...
    In my class... 4 people bought brand new MacBook PRO laptops in 6 months... Apple is growing... But I am very very disappointed...
    I want to send an e-mail about this issue to a customer support service or something like that... What should I do... Could you please help me?
    Thanks.

    Why didn't you just call the apple customer service. I would've done that the first day. Why do people insist on complaining about something they could easily fix with common sense and one phone call.
    Not to mention they are bond to be out of things like that since the demand for 15-17" Pro's are so much higher than that of the 13".

  • How can I send an e-mail to Apple Customer Service?

    Does anybody know how I can reach Apple Customer Service via e-mail?
    Since they repeatedly delete the questions I post to this discussion platform, maybe I can communicate with them via e-mail.
    If you are one of the Apple customer service people who are screening and deleting my posts, could you kindly send me an e-mail instead so we can start a communication.
    Any help/hints would be highly appreciated.
    Thank you.

    Unfortunately, that email address is not Customer Service; it is for problems relating to your Apple Support Community account only and will therefore most likely not have the desired results.
    Apple has not published an email address for customer service; the best way to contact them for that would be at their corporate address in Cupertino:
    http://www.apple.com/contact/

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