Discount on a credit memo (outgoing payments)

Regardless the due date a discount on a credit memo is always calculated when executing a payment run. Why is that??
I can imagine that in some cases the discount is calculated even if the document is overdue (otherwise you would take a discount on a delivery you may have sent back)
But why does the payment run always calculates this discount (according the payment terms)u2026 even is the credit memo is overdue??
Please help!

Hi, Veronica!
One note, if an invoice is paid in full then you cannot create a credit memo for it using the copy to/from.
Conversely, to create a credit memo this way for an invoice it means that the invoice was not paid, or (really bad practice), the payment applied to the invoice was cancelled, hence the invoice reopened, and now available to be credited.
If the invoice is not paid, there is nothing to refund the customer.
If the invoice was paid, then payment was cancelled, then the invoice was credited, and now the customer needs the money back, you can check this by following these steps: bring up the BP Card, drill into the account balance, look for any transaction with Origin RC that reads under Details "Reverse Entry for Confirmation No...." The C/D will be a negative amount in parenthesis, double negative...
If this is the case, and the customer indeed paid the invoice, I might not be qualified to guide you there, but you might need to recreate the incoming payment, then create an outgoing payment against the customer payment.
Reconcile the four open transactions, the initial incoming payment, the entry made by the cancellation, the new incoming payment and the outgoing payment.
You should consult with an accountant or the SAP support on how to properly handle this scenario.
Well, hope it helps.
Liviu

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