Distribution Receipt (Planned) orders w/o source of supply

Hi guys,
How can I get all SNP Distribution Receipt (Planned) orders w/o source of supply in APO?
BR,
Alper

Hi,
You can still create Distribution Receipts (Planned) orders, for this you have to maintain transprotation lane b/w vendor location (soruce) and plant locations (destination). Also you should have maintained the procurement type of the product as 'F' external procurement or 'X' both inhouse/external procurement. To run this create a test scenario by maintaing 2 locations(Vendor and plant location) and a product. Assign the product and locations to active model. Create some forecast using transaction /n/sapapo/rrp3. Enter the product, location(Plant location) and quantity(with negative value). and save. Check the forecast in interactive planning table. Now run the Network heuristics by selecting the vendor, plant location and product. You should be able to see the distribution receipts (PR) created for product.
There is no need for maintain the PDS/PPM as source of supply. Hope this is what you are expecting. If not let me know what actually you are looking for.
Regards
KRN

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