Downpayment Tax

The issue with downpayments is still not resolved as regards including partial tax. If my order is for 1000 and tax is 100. I want to create a dowmpayment for 500 with tax for 50 as I have to collect the tax with the downpayment. The downpayment is 50% plus tax not 60% to include tax. The tax has to be posted seperatley. When teh amount of 50% is added in the document then the tax should be calculated on that amount and shown as tax.
Am I correct that this still cannot be done in 8.8 or am I missing a setting?

Hi
Select the Tax Liable option from Form setting in A/R DownPayment Invoice.
Select NO option on Tax Liable ..............then check reffelection.
Thanks
Kamlesh Naware

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Service Tax payable on Vendor Advances at the time of down payment.
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I had created the requirement and at the time of posting in F-43
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For down payment f-48 i need to make any configuration, or need to maintain anywhere the tax code x5
Please advice me why at the time of down payment F-48 the tax is not picking.
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Hi Gurus,
I am trying to configure the down payment request for Vendor Payments, I want these down payment request to be posted so I un flagged the Noted Items check box and flagged the check box Commitments warnings check box and also I entered the Account determination key for Input tax clearing. Alternative GL account is defined to allow the Input Tax.
Now the problem is, when I try to post the Down payment request document with input tax I get an error message stating that "Down pmnts with taxes are not permitted when processing with jur.code". Actually the input tax is being assigned automatically even if I dont use a tax code.
So, can any one help me to understand what am I missing in my configuration or is it some thing which cannot be processed using F-47.
Oh by the way I am using the Special GL indication F (down payment request).
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Nicole,
Which country is this requirement for? As far as I know, there is no tax incidence on downpayment. Input tax arises only when you receive the invoice, right? Not when you receive a downpayment.

Withholding tax at the time of Downpayment

Dear all,
Can anybody tell me what is the process of extended withholding tax while paying downpayment using f-48 to vendor?
will award maximum points.
thanks & regards,
A.Anandarajan.

Hi,
Basically while creating tax code you have to create a with holding tax type for payment posting. Then assign it to the tax code. Then assign this tax code to the vendor in the vendor master.
Then only you can deduct WHT at the time of making down payment to vendor.
I am not giving the fullsteps as i am in the view you have already created tax code for invoice posting.
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Allow posting customer downpayment without tax code

Dear colleagues,
I have an scenario where customer downpayments can be tax relevant and non tax relevant. I have costumized the G/L account with "*" as a tax category and the tick "posting without tax allowed". Nevertheless when i execute the transaction F-29 the system always requires me a tax code to post the downpayment. I am using the classical "a" as special GL indicator. Does Anybody know how can i make the tax code field entry optional when i am posting a downpayment? I know how i can make dissapear the field (just leaving the tax category as "blank") but i want the field as an optional field, nor supressed neither required.
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I had already done it and it did not work either. It seems like downpayments could not be optional taxed, if you leave the tax category of the reconciliation account in blank when you post a downpayment the tax fields dissapear whereas if you inform it, the tax code field in F-29 turns to be a required field. It is a pitty! I dont know if somebodoy can put some light on it or confirm my afirmation.
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Hi Leena,
Check the field WT_MASMAN in Table With_Item.
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Hi Datta Karat
thanks for your reply...i have already defined Apply Tax in First Installment. in the
payment terms of A/R DownPayment Invoice and Business Master.
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VAT Tax on a Downpayment Document

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Can someone enlighten me on downpayment processing for Europe.
SAP Down Payment processing does not post a tax liability to Financial statements until the cash is posted from the Down Payment receipt with T/C f-29.
However, statutory requirements state:
An advance payment, or deposit, is a proportion of the total selling price that a customer pays before you supply them with goods or services. If you ask for an advance payment, the tax point is whichever of the following happens first:
the date you issue a VAT invoice for the advance payment
the date you receive the advance payment
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It would appear that SAP is not meeting the requirement here. Why doesn't SAP include tax on the downpayment process

Hello,
I don't see how the VAT invoice for down payment is handled in this process.
Could you please explain?
In European countries (since 2004 in France, for example), there is an obligation for suppliers to issue VAT invoices for down payments.
In addition, there are different rules depending on the nature of the invoiced items (goods/servces). For goods, VAT should be registered and claimed only when the final delivery and invoice occur. Consequently, a down payment invoice for goods can have 0 VAT + the reason.
For services, part of the VAT must be registered and can be claimed when the (down) payment is made. If it is an invoice containing both goods and services, part of the VAT is due by the supplier upon (down) payment and the total VAT is claimed by the buyer only when the full invoice arrives.
The bottom line is that in some cases suppliers have to register VAT when they get a payment and in others only when the final invoice is issued.
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when we create a down payment request thru F-47, it checks on basic amount ,but we want it checks with total PO value and at the same time for all po line itmes. How is possible. please help.
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Dear Avinash,
We had the same issue.
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But your requirement is when Gross value (Net Value + Freight, legalization charges etc) is exceeded the system should throw the error.
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Dear Expert
My client receieves down payment with input tax, to meet their legal requirement for VAT filing, they have to book entries as below;
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Dr. Down payment
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Nicole,
Which country is this requirement for? As far as I know, there is no tax incidence on downpayment. Input tax arises only when you receive the invoice, right? Not when you receive a downpayment.

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We are trying to incorporate the new Withholding Tax Structure w.e.f. 01-Oct-09.
There were 3 scenarios possible:
a. Invoice = Down Payment
b. Invoice < Down Payment
c. Invoice > Down Payment
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Hi Kapil,
The following needs to be taken care of -
The message controls settings as the note suggests must be set as W.
When entering the details the logic is Vendor Debit amount is Tax amount + 1
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In your example -
The tax amount will be - 2000 ( the debit at the time of downpayment clearing should have been 4000 instead of 6000)
Tax base amount - 40000 (Challan for this amount has already been made at the time of downpayment made)
The vendor Debit - 2001 (2000 + 1)
The vendor credit - 1
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Thanks and Regards,
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Error doing outgoing payment against A/P Downpayment Request

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warm regards
anand

Hi Jeyakanthan
Thanks for the reply.Actually our client has a requirement.They do big projects of construction
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HI expert!!!
i have one scenario that advance payment and down payment with different tax code.
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hi,
As per my knowledge their is no difference between advance payment and downpayment.
and tax code is used for taxes purpose not for the payment terms.
taxcode is created in ftxp.and related percentages are maintained in fv11.
ex:-
if i want excise duty - 10% on basic value
education cesse 2% on excise duty
sec.education cesses 1% on excise duty
then fitst i have to create 3 condition types and that 3 condition types are used in my taxprocedure and that taxprocedure is assigned to country code..
after that i am created one taxcode in ftxp like v1= exciseduty10%educatiocess2%sec.edu.cesses1% with this description.
and given the values for that conditions in fv11.
and used that v1 taxcode in your p.o in invoice tab.
and payment terms are came from vendor not from taxcode.
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