Estimated price
Hi
In some cases Our company uses an estimated price as base price for allsubsequent activities. Generally this estimated price is adjusted with the final price at the end of the season or a predefined time period. Here SAP is required to do a reconciliation, this reconciliation can be either a credit or a debit. To ensure that the final u201Cactualu201D price is correctly calculated either a debit note or a credit note will be issued.
How to do settings in pricing procedure. and how to do reconcilliation with condition type
Regars
First of all you need to create two condition types for Expected Price and Final Price. Expected price would be used in transactions but final price is to be used f aor comparing. For example - Suppose Expected price is maintained at Rs. 100 on 10.10.2001 and you sell on 01.01.2010 with expected price 100.
Now on 31.03.2010 you derive the final price. You need to maintain this value in a new condition type (may be for customer/material combination) with period 01.01.2010 to 31.03.2010.
Now, a Z-Table needs to be be developed to compare the two prices on the invoice date. i.e. the program will run on the last day of the period (e.g. 31.03.2010) for each and every invoice created during the period. It will check the basic price of the invoice and the final price maintained in the condition rec. for that invoice date.
Then based on this report Price Difference Credit/ Debit memos can be created either manually or automatically as background job th. BDC. You need to create pricing procedure for the credit/debit memo - which will calculate differential taxes,etc. for the differential price. It is good to create one credit/debit memo per original invoice.
Hope this helps. Let me know if this works.
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Dear All,
Happy Holidays!! Wishing you a happy and fun-filled holiday season.
I would appreciate your input of the issue at hand. I support MM users in and Oil & Gas downstream company.
Issue
Purchase Orders are created using price estimates. The price of oil products fluctuates and we usually cannot get the exact price at the point of creation of the PO.
We use Moving Average Price (MAP) for stock valuation and so the price & quantity in the PO affects the moving average price.
We use price estimates to create the PO but when we receive the final price for the oil products from the Supplier, most times there is a significant difference between the estimated price and the final price. Usually, at this point, we have completed all goods receipts and goods issues against the PO and are unable to make changes.
We have an issue posting the invoice because the invoice value is significantly higher than the PO value. We also have an issue with the moving average price because it is understated as a result of this.
To reiterate, this is a summary of the issue:
At the point if PO creation ; Quantity = 10, 000 MT Price = $650
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Any advise on how to treat this issue, please? Your assistance will be truly appreciated.
ThanksHi All
For my client I have to map the similar requirement for material price which is subject to more than 15% fluctuation. The actual invoice price is having quite a huge difference.
Below are my limitations within which need to give a solution.
PO is subject to release strategy and Material is delivered over a longer duration of time. Hence there is problem to de-Release the PO everytime price is changed.
Since differnce is so huge, the same can not be settled during the MIRO.
Down Payments has to be posted hence PO has to be created with estimated base price.
Please suggest me suitable alternative options which will require no changes in PO and the price change also can be accomodated during the MIRO for Multiple goods receipts. -
Price difference between the requisition and the order
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I have this configuration menu available in SPRO in one of my systems (IDES), however on a newly installed ERP6 system we are missing this menu path in SPRO.
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I have an issue today from user.Having not worked on contracts much,I am quite confused what to do.My user has a requirement like below
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Changing Cost Estimation ( ML activated)
Hi All,
We have ML activated and we have Price Control as "S" for all ROH, HALB & FERT Materials.
The intention was to have one Cost Estimation per year and difference to be posted to variance.
The Material Valuation Strategy is
1. Valuation Price from User Exit
2. Price from Info Record
3.MAP
4.Planned Price 1
Now our issue, in June 2011 we have executed cost estimation for some new materials(say one Material ABC - Cost estimation must be $12000 but it is updated as $19000 due to wrong price maintenance) with wrong price and made goods movement.
Now when we want to correct the cost estimation by executing a new cost estimation( i.e. we want to overwrite the $19000 by $12000 for the ABC material) by this month( July 2011), but the system is picking the same old cost estimation price (old cost estimation price as $ 19000).
Can you suggest, how we can overwrite the existing cost estimation.
Do suggest.
Regards,
RexHi All
Costing valuation follows the priority you have define. If this is taking 19000 maybe this value is coming from the first option (user exit).
I suggest you to change the priority to take price from planned price 1. Go to OKKN and change the priority for Valuation variant.
...or you have to assure there is no prices from priority from 1 to 3.
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What Antony mentioned about consumables is true.
However, for material purchases there is another way to do it. Please follow the steps below.
1) SPRO --> MM --> Purchasing --> Authorization Management --> Define Function Authorizations for Buyers
2) Maintain 01 function authorization or copy it to create a new one
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5) Go to each buyers ID by SU01 --> Parameter. Enter EFB and enter the 2 codes that you defined in Step 2.
6) Log out then log back in
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How do i get price varaince in material master.
Tell any std t.code is there
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>You can also set special tolerances if the price in the >purchase order is flagged as an estimated price.
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LIV tolerance for price variance from PO to LIV
Hi Friends,
I am finding difficulty in setting up the tolerance key for price variance from PO value to invoice value. Suppose if PO price is $100 then system should allow upto $105 with out blocking means with percentage of 5%. If it exceeds 5% system should block the invoice.
Please suggest the tolerance key to use and if any other settings required.
Thanks...
Best RegardsHi,
Following is the SAP help on the Tolerance settings for Invoice. Check the config and decide what is best for you (from your brief explanation it looks like AP and PP may be relevant fro your case)
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Set Tolerance Limits
In this step, you specify the tolerance limits for each tolerance key
for each company code.
When processing an invoice, the R/3 System checks each item for
variances between the invoice and the purchase order or goods receipt.
The different types of variances are defined in tolerance keys.
The system uses the following tolerance keys to check for variances:
o AN: Amount for item without order reference
If you activate the item amount check, the system checks every line
item in an invoice with no order reference against the absolute
upper limit defined.
o AP: Amount for item with order reference
If you activate the item amount check, the system checks specific
line items in an invoice with order reference against the absolute
upper limit defined. Which invoice items are checked depends on how
you configure the item amount check.
o BD: Form small differences automatically
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upper limit defined. If the upper limit is not exceeded, the system
automatically creates a posting line called Expense/Income from
Small Differences, making the balance zero and allowing the system
to post the document.
o BR: Percentage OPUn variance (IR before GR)
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ratios: quantity invoiced in order price quantity units : quantity
invoiced in order units and quantity ordered in order price quantity
units : quantity ordered in order units. The system compares the
variance with the upper and lower percentage tolerance limits.
o BW: Percentage OPUn variance (GR before IR)
The system calculates the percentage variance between the following
ratios: quantity invoiced in order price quantity units: quantity
invoiced in order units and goods receipt quantity in order price
quantity units : goods receipt quantity in order units. The system
compares the variance with the upper and lower percentage limits
defined.
o DQ: Exceed amount: quantity variance
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receipt has already been posted, the system multiplies the net order
price by (quantity invoiced - (total quantity delivered - total
quantity invoiced)).
If no goods receipt has been defined, the system multiplies the net
order price by (quantity invoiced - (quantity ordered - total
quantity invoiced)).
The system compares the outcome with the absolute upper and lower
limits defined.
This allows relatively high quantity variances for invoice items for
small amounts, but only small quantity variances for invoice items
for larger amounts.
You can also configure percentage limits for the quantity variance
check. In this case, the system calculates the percentage variance
from the expected quantity, irrespective of the order price, and
compares the outcome with the percentage limits configured.
The system also carries out a quantity variance check for planned
delivery costs.
o DW: Quantity variance when GR quantity = zero
If a goods receipt is defined for an order item but none has as yet
been posted, the system multiplies the net order price by (quantity
invoiced + total quantity invoiced so far).
The system then compares the outcome with the absolute upper
tolerance limit defined.
If you have not maintained tolerance key DW for your company code,
the system blocks an invoice for which no goods receipt has been
posted yet. If you want to prevent this block, then set the
tolerance limits for your company code for tolerance key DW to Do
not check.
o KW: Variance from condition value
The system calculates the amount by which each delivery costs item
varies from the product of quantity invoiced * planned delivery
costs/ planned quantity. It compares the variance with the upper and
lower limits defined (absolute limits and percentage limits).
o LA: Amount of blanket purchase order
The system determines the number of days by which the invoice is
outside the planned time interval. If the posting date of the
invoice is before the validity period, the system calculates the
number of days between the posting date and the start of the
validity period. If the posting date of the invoice is after the
validity period, the system calculates the number of days between
the posting date and the end of the validity period. The system
compares the number of days with the with the absolute upper limit
defined.
o PP: Price variance
The system determines by how much each invoice item varies from the
product of quantity invoiced * order price. It then compares the
variance with the upper and lower limits defined (absolute limits
and percentage limits).
When posting a subsequent debit/credit, the system first checks if a
price check has been defined for subsequent debits/credits. If so,
the system calculates the difference between (value of subsequent
debit/credit + value invoiced so far) / quantity invoiced so far *
quantity to be debited/credited and the product of the quantity to
be debited/credited * order price and compares this with the upper
and lower tolerance limits (absolute limits and percentage limits).
o PS: Price variance: estimated price
If the price in an order item is marked as an estimated price, for
this item, the system calculates the difference between the invoice
value and the product of quantity invoiced * order price and
compares the variance with the upper and lower tolerance limits
defined (absolute limits and percentage limits).
When posting a subsequent debit/credit, the system first checks
whether a price check has been defined for subsequent
debits/credits, If so, the system calculates the difference between
(value of subsequent debit/credit + value invoiced so far) /
quantity invoiced so far * quantity to be debited/credited and the
product quantity to be debited/credited * order price. It then
compares the variance with the upper and lower tolerance limits
defined (absolute limits and percentage limits).
o ST: Date variance (value x days)
The system calculates for each item the product of amount *
(scheduled delivery date - date invoice entered) and compares this
product with the absolute upper limit defined. This allows
relatively high schedule variances for invoice items for small
amounts, but only small schedule variances for invoice items for
large amounts.
o VP: Moving average price variance
When a stock posting line is created as a result of an invoice item,
the system calculates the new moving average price that results from
the posting. It compares the percentage variance of the new moving
average price to the old price using the percentage tolerance limits
defined.
Variances are allowed within predefined tolerance limits. If a variance
exceeds a tolerance limit, however, the system issues a message
informing the user. If an upper limit (except with BD and VP) is
exceeded, the invoice is blocked for payment when you post it. You must
then release the invoice in a separate step. If the tolerance limit for
BD is breached, the system cannot post the invoice.
Note that if you set all limits for a tolerance key to Do not check, the
system does not check that tolerance limit. Therefore any variance would
be accepted. This does not make sense particularly in the case of the
tolerance key Form small differences automatically.
Activities
Configure the tolerance limits for the individual tolerance keys.
Lower limit Upper limit
Absolute Percentage Absolute Percentage
AN - - X -
AP - - X -
BD X - X -
BR - X - X
BW - X - X
DQ - - X -
DW - - X -
KW X X X X
LA - - X X
LD X - X -
PP X X X X
PS X X X X
ST - - X -
VP - X - X
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Best Regards,
Siva -
Moving Average Price for non stock material
Hi All,
We are looking at loading a large number of material masters for items that will not be stocked - i.e. an account assignment will always be provided during purchasing.
When we load these materials - what should the moving average price on the accounting tab be set to? If we put an estimated price in - then when we purchase we will get a warning if the variance between the purchase price and the moving average price is too great. And then when the material changes in price (in lets say a year because the vendor has increased prices by 10%) we can no longer update the moving average price.
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Kind Regards,non stock material (standard material type NLAG) does in general not have accounting views, hence it has no fields for moving average prices.
however it can be customized to have an accounting view, we did it too. This servers the requisition process, with accounting view the price defaults to the requisition. without accouting view, the valuation price needs to be entered manually by a user in the requisition.
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Invoice Verification tolerance price varience
Hi All,
I have set Invoice verification tolerance key PP upper limit 5 % and value 5 in customizing.
I have also set message M8082 and M8083 as error message in customizing.
My requirement is to limit user from posting invoice above 5 % of GRN Amount.
The message customizing is working fine for value (M8082) however I cannot get message M8083 for % of invoice amount tolerance.
I want message M8083 to be triggered at invoice verification which is not happening.Hi,
If the price in an order item is marked as an estimated price, for this item, the system calculates the difference between the invoice value and the product of quantity invoiced * order price and compares the variance with the upper and lower tolerance limits defined
Please confirm your PO should have following check on condition control tab
and maintain the Tolerance key PS for upper and lower % limits, system first go through Val. check and then % tolerance limit check,
then you will get the message M8083
Sohaib Mahmood wrote:
My requirement is to limit user from posting invoice above 5 % of GRN Amount.
The message customizing is working fine for value (M8082) however I cannot get message M8083 for % of invoice amount tolerance.
I want message M8083 to be triggered at invoice verification which is not happening.
if you want to limit the user from posting the invoice by 5% tolerance, then maintain PP tolerance key,
you will get the message M8082 this will solve your purpose,
If your business demand for estimated price variance then maintain PS tolerance key you will get the message M8083
Thanks
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