Exchange Rate difference between PO , GR and IR
Hi All,
I have a question, Does anyone know how to handle the PO exchange rate difference between PO , GR and IR time.
For example
1. PO creation on Jan 2009 - exchange rate = 1.2
2. GR creation on Feb 2009 - exchange rate = 1.5
3. IR creation on March 2009 - exchange rate = 1.7
Should GR and IR use the PO exchange rate # 1 for posting or use the current exchange # 2 for GR and #3 for IR ?
Thank you
Alex
Hi Alex,
The exchange rates in PO and GR and IR will be different as if you have are updating the rates per month in system so it will changed.
Regards,
Ninad Kshirsagar
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Murali Krishna Lanka
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