Excise Duties in subcontracting challan

Dear Friends
I am creating subcontracting challan57f4 in ref to material transfer document.MY query is, should duties also appear while creating subcontracting challan i my case this is not happening.
Can anybody help me on this issue
Regards
VIvek

Hi,
The excise duties should not appear in the Sub-Contracting challan. Because, you are creating the excise challan for sending the excisable material outside to your sub-contractor for processing without payment of duties. Hence it is the right thing that excise duties are not appearing in your challan.
Regards,
Prashant Kolhatkar

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can u anybody explain how make excise group for singapore
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Hi,
First ensure following;
Configuration: -
- Go to SPRO > Logistics - General > Tax on Goods Movements > India > Account Determination > Specify Excise Accounts per Excise Transaction > Here maintain as following;
ETT Subtrn Typ DC ind Acct name
57FC            CR     PLABED
57FC            CR     RG23BED
57FC            CR     RG23ECS
57FC            DR     CLEAR
57FC 01         CR     PLABED
57FC 01         CR     RG23AT1
57FC 01         CR     RG23BED
57FC 01         CR     RG23ECS
57FC 01         DR     CLEAR
57NR            CR     CLEAR
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57NR            CR     RG23BED
57NR            CR     RG23ECS
57NR            DR     REVERS
57NR 01         CR     CLEAR
57NR 01         CR     PLABED
57NR 01         CR     RG23BED
57NR 01         CR     RG23ECS
57NR 01         DR     REVERS
- And then go to SPRO > Logistics - General > Tax on Goods Movements > India > Account Determination > Specify G/L Accounts per Excise Transaction > Here do Account Determination for the above combination and Excise Group
Apart from above also do following configuration for Subcontracting;
- SPRO > Logistics - General > Tax on Goods Movements > India > Business Transactions > Subcontracting > Subcontracting Attributes
Here maintain following;
Excise Group         XX
Excise TT            57FC
Subtransaction Type 01
Subtran Type Text   57FC CHALLAN
Subc. Period        180
Rate-subcontracting
Mvt Grp Issues      0001
Mvt Grp Receipt     0002
Filter Non exise
EI Items            10
No. range no.       01
***. Val. /Exc Inv
Subcon Output Type J1IF
- SPRO > Logistics - General > Tax on Goods Movements > India > Business Transactions > Subcontracting > Maintain Movement Type Groups
Here maintain following
MVT. Grp. MvT S
0001      101 O
0001      541 O
0002      542
0002      542 O
0002      543 O
- J1I9 - maintain No range for object "J_1I57FC" for series group
Then follow the below process;
Subcontracting without Payment of Duty
- Creation of Subcontracting PO (ME21N)
- Transfer Posting of Components to Subcontractor (Mvmt Type - 541) (MB1B/ME2O/MIGO)
- Creation of Subcontracting Challan w.r.t. Transfer Posting Doc (J1IF01)
- Goods Receipt w.r.t. Subcontracting PO and Refer Subcontracting Challan at the time of GR (MIGO) {GR with 101 and autoconsumption of components with 543 movement}
- Reconciliation of Subcontracting Challan (J1IFQ)
- Completion of Subcontracting Challan (J1IF13)
- Generation of Annexure IV (J1IFR)
Master Data
- MM01- Material Masters for Components and FG
- XK01 - Vendor Master (Subcontractor)
- CS01 - BOM for FG
- ME11 - Purchase Inforecord for Subcontracting

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HI
Error is Cannot reconcile crossed return date,please reverse
Scenario is such
Material is received MIGO is done after process now they want to create J1IFQ here the problem exists ,
kindly help how to sort out the problem.

Reverse the excise duties in J1IF13.
Then do the reconciliation in J1IFQ
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3
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I have maintained the Assessable Value for my subcontracting components and also there is Excise Invoice exists for this components. While creating Subcontracting challan, system is displaying information message that Material XXXXXX has an assessable value, but I would like to refer the Excise Invoice.
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Hi,
For every excisable material (whether you procure, manufacture or sale) has to be declared as excisable material in table J1ID with appropriate chapter ID, assessable value & CENVAT declaration.
When you send the excisable material to the sub-contractor the material needs to be returned back to your plant within 180 days. If this is not done, then you will have to pay back the excise duty on the material with base value as assessable value. Hence it is required to maintain the assessable value.
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we are using TAXINN in ECC5.0. we are creating subcontracting challan after maintianing assessable value and excise rates 16% BED, 2% ECS and 1% SEC ECS for the chapter id. When we are trying to reverse the subcontracting challan, the duty values are not calculated in the challan. we have also maintained excise indicator for the vendor and also excise details.
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Hi,
against which document you are reversing it 541 0r 542 material document check following link
[Subcontract Challan;
[http://help.sap.com/saphelp_470/helpdata/ru/1c/d6a1d82b5611d4ae1700105a16d13d/content.htm]
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1) Does the system automatically debits the modvat accounts in case the material is not sent by the subcontractor within 180 days. Do I need to enter the amounts in "Utilization Tab"? In the subcontracting challan the duties are shown as calculated on the posting data tab. In the utilization tab the entry for
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RG23A SED                  0.00
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PLA   SED                  0.00                   0.00 AED                    0.00
PLA   AED                  0.00                   0.00 SED                    0.00
RG23A NCD                  0.00                         NCCD                   0.00
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1) Does the system automatically debits the modvat accounts in case the material is not sent by the subcontractor within 180 days. Do I need to enter the amounts in "Utilization Tab"? In the subcontracting challan the duties are shown as calculated on the posting data tab. In the utilization tab the entry for
If you send exciable material to subcontractor vendor and you not get your material in 180 days then what happen check following
1) why 180 days first because as per Indian law your excise invoice valid for 180 days to take credit after that you can not take credit
2) when 180 days complete ,then it consider as you sale your material to vendor and you have to create sale invoice along with excise invoice and send to vendor ,system will not do automatically.
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Please suggest me about Subcontracting challan reconcilation & re credit in case material is recieved after 180 days. how challan is handled & regarding credit what needs to be done.
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follow following steps-
1.TCode-j1if13.-Complete/Reversal/Recredit- Reverse challan.
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2.TCode-j1if13.-Complete/Reversal/Recredit- Recredit challan.
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You are referring the material challan, which is not posted for Sub-Contracting PO. Pl. check your Material document number. Also pl. check that plant is same in material document & s/c Challan.
Excise values are not appearing in the S/C Excise Challan, because you are sending the excisable material to your sub-contractor without paying any excise duty. When you reverse & recredit the S/C Challan, it will show the Excise Amounts.
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1.)We purchsed material from vendor A & send these material to vendor B directly for Job work ( for this we have seperate PO with subcontractor)
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1. In a MIGO for a subcontracting PO, i can select the option Refer subcontracting challan in the excise invoice tab. I wanted to know the purpose of this functionality. If i refer the subcontracting challan in the MIGO does it mean I dont have to reconcile the challan after MIGO.
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http://scn.sap.com/thread/1950603

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I have done all the required customization settings,,,
procedure i followed is:
1. created two raw materials with material type ROH, - materials R1, R2
cretated a semifinished material with material type HALB- material S1
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i m not getting excise tab for refering subcontracting challan
Receiving material is semifinish material - all details r maintained in j1id
child material is raw material -all details maintained in jild
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plant -chap combination , cenvat determination , accessible value for both material
in cenvat dete input raw and output semifinish maintained
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