Excise Duty Inclusive in basic price

Dear Experts,
when the excise duty is included in the price, we enable the check box MRP Indicator in the excise tab while doing MIGO and based on this the GRN will be posted deducting the excise values from the price.
but the trouble is, while doing MIRO, the system is not taking the posted value in GRN, rather the basic price plus the excise duty. How to overcome this to that the value proposed by the system is exclusive of excise duty?
regards
Suresh

hi,
say the value is 10,000 which is inclusive of 1000 excise duty.
while posting the GRN we will enable the MRP indicator and based on this the GRN value will be posted as 9000 and the 1000 will be captured as excise duty
but while doing the MIRO, either by giving the Purchase order or Delivery note as the reference, the value proposed by the system is 10,000 and not 9000. I know that we can change the values, but the client requires that the system has to propose the value as 9000 instead of 10,000
hope it is clear
suresh
Edited by: rasuresh on Feb 26, 2010 1:15 PM

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