Failure to load ear in WL 8.1

I'm just looking for how to get more info. I'm using ant to deploy to WL 8.1.
I get the following:
[echo] Deploying ejb
[java] Initiated Task: [0] [Deployer:149026]Deploy application ejb on myserver.
[java] Task 0 failed: [Deployer:149026]Deploy application ejb on myserver.
[java] Deployment failed on Server myserver
[java] Exception:weblogic.management.ApplicationException: prepare failed
for ejb.jar
[java] Module: ejb.jar     Error: Exception preparing module: EJBModule(ejb.jar,status=NEW)
[java] Unable to deploy EJB: ejb.jar from ejb.jar:
[java] Compiler failed executable.exec
[java] at weblogic.ejb20.ejbc.EJBCompiler.doCompile(EJBCompiler.java:274)
[java] at weblogic.ejb20.ejbc.EJBCompiler.compileEJB(EJBCompiler.java:476)
[java] at weblogic.ejb20.ejbc.EJBCompiler.compileEJB(EJBCompiler.java:407)
This, of course, tells me nothing. Maybe it tells you something.
Where can I find out more info about the error so I can fix it?
Thanks.
GregM

That would be wlappc
ie
<wlappc source="${ear.dir}" />
-- Rob
Greg McCarty wrote:
I'll look around for an ant task to do it.
GregM
"Rob Woollen" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]..
Can you run weblogic.appc or the wlappc ant task on your ejb.jar prior
to deploying it? I'm wondering if you hit a WLS bug where it generated
code that didn't compile.
-- Rob
Greg McCarty wrote:
I'm just looking for how to get more info. I'm using ant to deploy to
WL 8.1.
I get the following:
[echo] Deploying ejb
[java] Initiated Task: [0] [Deployer:149026]Deploy application ejbon myserver.
[java] Task 0 failed: [Deployer:149026]Deploy application ejb onmyserver.
[java] Deployment failed on Server myserver
[java] Exception:weblogic.management.ApplicationException: preparefailed
for ejb.jar
[java] Module: ejb.jar Error: Exception preparing module:EJBModule(ejb.jar,status=NEW)
[java] Unable to deploy EJB: ejb.jar from ejb.jar:
[java] Compiler failed executable.exec
[java] atweblogic.ejb20.ejbc.EJBCompiler.doCompile(EJBCompiler.java:274)
[java] atweblogic.ejb20.ejbc.EJBCompiler.compileEJB(EJBCompiler.java:476)
[java] atweblogic.ejb20.ejbc.EJBCompiler.compileEJB(EJBCompiler.java:407)
This, of course, tells me nothing. Maybe it tells you something.
Where can I find out more info about the error so I can fix it?
Thanks.
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