Function of lot size PB,FS.

Hello SAP Gurus,
   Can you help in understanding the function of lot size PB(period lot size=posting period) and FS (Fixing and Splitting).
     I mean i what to know how these lot sizes works.With this also share that where can i get study material on it.
                        Thanking You.

Hi,
Lot Size FS :-
When entering the lot size "FS" and in field the qty as fixed the system is splitting up the planned order qty.
For ex qty is 100 the fixed lot size is 25 the sys creates 5 planned orders of 25 each. The total qty now comes to 25
Lot Size PB :-
In period lot-sizing procedures, the system groups several requirements within a time interval together to form a lot
In PB periods of flexible length equal to posting periods.
Determines how the lot size is calculated for a certain lot-sizing procedure during material requirements planning.
Please go SAP help for details and system configuration in OMI4.
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_46c/helpdata/en/f4/7d281244af11d182b40000e829fbfe/frameset.htm
Hope it will help you.
Regards,
R.Brahmankar

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