How SAP Cost Estimate determine Subcontracting Cost, if different Scale Quantity?

As per subject, why 32 instead 36 or 40?
Can we set for it?

Davis,
You can create different production order like one production order for new equipment Or Other For second old equipment and old equipment order you can increase the material component quantity .
or second i agree with Mr. Biju K
you can create two cost center
old equipment : xxxxx
new equipment : yyyyy
you can create different work center base on two separate cost center so all cost book in separately in cost center.

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hello sir ,
how to do stadard cost estimate and standard cost in sap
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Hi
Try below link
http://help.sap.com/bp_iasifrsv1470/BBlibrary/Documentation/I56_BPP_EN_DE.doc
http://help.sap.com/bp_blv1500/BL_US/documentation/Scenarios/V8Q_BPP_EN_US.doc
http://help.sap.com/bestpractices/BBLibrary/Documentation/J74_BPP_EN_KO.doc
VVR
Edited by: Ramana on Jan 2, 2008 1:09 PM

Material cost estimate and mateiral cost estimate with quantity structure

Hi sap guys,
What is the difference between material cost estimate and material cost estimate with quantity structure

Hi
Both are in one way the same.
Material cost estimate can be calculated as
1. Material with quantity structure
2. Material without quantity structure
You can get more insight into it at the following link
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_47x200/helpdata/en/7e/cb938143a311d189ee0000e81ddfac/frameset.htm
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Suraj

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My client is trying to run the cost collectors in t-code KKF6N. The error reads as under:
u201CError determining the cost estimateu201D.
Prior to this he was experiencing problems with the costing of 3 different SKUs which appear in one of his Z report.
Kind Regards,
SD

Hi,
Send the details of Error message.
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K/834 no standard cost estimate and ke435 costing key 000 does not exist

Hi ,
scenario as under we have following type of materials
normal Material that has cost estimate
Configuarable material
Material without cost estimate -prices are updated thru MR21 (as some legacy system calculated the price)
There are many company codes and use one or more above category of material. further we have common Material type and valuation class.
we need cost component split to get updated in COPA and for that i create 2 costing key one for normal and other for normal one and developed an enhancement (KEPC) that check whether material is configurable or not. based on that it assign 001 or 002 costing key
it went well but failed for material that has no cost estimate and got error K/834.
To tackle same we insert further logic to check for normal material whether cost estimate exist, if yes then assign costing key 001 else ignore it. configurable material logic remain as it is. it working fine for normal and Configuarable material but normal material without cost estimate resulted in error KE435.
need to know:
-at first place why system generates K/834 error for enhancement - earlier we were using assignment rule (KEPC) where we use valuation class and assigned costing key 001, it worked for normal one and ignore configurable one and normal material without cost estimate. I haven't changed costing key rule and exclusive error is not marked .
- any other way to tackle besides resetting message class from error to warning or changing Materila type or valuation class as that is not acceptable due to other complexity.
Regards,
Atul

Hi,
It resolved thru enhancement
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Atu

Standard Cost Estimate for Subcontracting

Dear Sir / Madam,
We are in the process of migrating from our normal R/3 operations for Production Planning to Execution inclusive of Costing of materials by using iPPE functionality for repetitive scenario. We have our BOMs for painted body currently in R/3. The painted body falls under subcontracting scenario.
In this scenario the body in white produced from our bodyshop is sent out to the subcontractor along with certain paint items and is received as painted body and consumption of the body in white and the paint items sent needs to be shown during the goods receipt of painted body.
For this we have maintained the BOM for the painted body in iPPE. Also in the costing variant "ZD01" in order to arrive at Standard cost (CK11N) for the painted body we have maintained the following settings for Valuation variant for subcontracting :
Priority     Strategy Sequence
1          Net Quotation Price
2          Effective Price from Purchase Order
While running CK11N for the material (painted body) we are receiving the following message
Message no. 28501 : Error in dependency processing: condition 0000062388 is empty
We wanted to verify whether the message raised is normal or would it have any adverse impact.
Your assistance would be highly appreciated.
Regards,
Bhavika
Edited by: Bhavika Goyal on Feb 7, 2009 12:20 PM

Dear All,
Control Key is important for inhouse producrtion and Sub Contract. Check it once and when ever u have given the Product (semi fisished) to Sub Contractor, along with Paint.
Here one thing is important what is your process? how much portionis involced in Sub contracting. why because
Paint issue to the sub con is captured by the way for migo or miro
Payment to sub contract is capture all the cost of the Sub Con., then is there any cost is missed for this process. Let me know the remain things?
thanqu
raj

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Hi
I'm hoping for some advice on costing on a variant material.
I have created a sales order for a variant material and ran a cost estimate to get costs for the sales order. Should this populate a cost condition within the sales order pricing? How can the margin be seen in the sales order?
Thanks for your help.
Ashley Shannon

Hello Ashley
Yes, if you have done your settings correctly, especially Requirements class set up (see the documentation link), then the cost estimate will flow to a condition type in Pricing, usually EK01/EK02 conditions. These conditions are used to calculate sales prices (PR00) in cost-plus (mark-up) scenarios.
Link: http://help.sap.com/erp2005_ehp_04/helpdata/EN/90/ba6da4446711d189420000e829fbbd/frameset.htm
However Profit margin as calculated in a sales order comes from VPRS condition (which is based in Material Master) and is the difference of net value and VPRS condition value in normal circumstance.
Hope other more knowledgeable experts will weigh in.

Sales order cost estimate with GIT account

Hi,
Business introduced Goods - in - Transit (Balance sheet account), so PGI will always post to GIT and Invoice it will get reversed.
For one of the Configuratble material (MTO) scenario we need the Sales order cost estimate to get the Planned cost.
When i try to execute the sales order cost estimate it says cost element doesnot exist for GIT GL (WHich is right).
But with maintaining the GIT how to achieve the sales order cost estimate.
I tried to create CE category 90 for GIT, in Cost estimate am getting error CE 90 not supported for Cost estimate.
Kindly help this is kind of urgent req for us
Thanks,
Sudha

Hello Ashley
Yes, if you have done your settings correctly, especially Requirements class set up (see the documentation link), then the cost estimate will flow to a condition type in Pricing, usually EK01/EK02 conditions. These conditions are used to calculate sales prices (PR00) in cost-plus (mark-up) scenarios.
Link: http://help.sap.com/erp2005_ehp_04/helpdata/EN/90/ba6da4446711d189420000e829fbbd/frameset.htm
However Profit margin as calculated in a sales order comes from VPRS condition (which is based in Material Master) and is the difference of net value and VPRS condition value in normal circumstance.
Hope other more knowledgeable experts will weigh in.

Excise Duty - Standard Cost Estimate

Hi Experts,
We have defined Excise duty as one of the cost component in the cost component structure. Can some one explain how this Excise duty is posted as planned values in the Standard Cost Estimate ( For material cost quantity from the BOM and price from Material Master is picked up according to the Valuation Variant - defined strategy - similarly for Excise Duty how the system captures the Value).
Please Help - thanks in advance.

Hi
If your Plant is not in an Excise Free Zone - Then You should not add Excise Duty as a cost component because you will be getting credit for the same
If your Plant is in an Excise Free Zone - Then your MAP/Planned Price etc must be inclusive of Excise duty.... This is handled by marking the excise condition as Non Deductible
So, in short, there is no way to show it separate... For Case b, you can use CK74N to add Excise component as Additive cost
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Valuation using material cost estimate

Ciao a tutti,
We have create a material cost
estimate without standard structure(unit costing) not FOR ALL MATERIALS, but only for ONE
VARIANT of generic material (retail solution) (because the other variant have the same price, and because we have to reproduced 5000 BOM in unit cost for just
one variant with transaction KKPA LSMW)
So, now we have to valuated the material cost estimate when the customer create the billing document and put the split of the cost estimate in co-pa
Our prolem is : we have calculate standard cost estimate for 5000
variant not for all variant (because our customer crete the BOM in unit
costing with transaction KKPA and LSMW, and they refuced the idea to
calculate 30000 cost estimate with lsmw) so when we crete a billing
document with a variant that haven't cost estimate created the system doesn't
valuated the cost estimate (the system works well), but how I can change the variant in the valuation and put the variant that have the cost
estimate calculate?
Wiht the transaction "Assign Costing Keys to Any Characteristics" I think
is not possible.
I must to use enhance COPA0002?
Thank you very much
Paolo Artini
tel: +393299223804

Hi All,
I am also facing the problem for Sales Order Cost Estimate. and the Costing Status is VO(Marked without errors).
I have done the following
created the Costing Key (sales order cost estimate)
assigned costing key to the material type.
assigned to the respective value fields
sales order cost estimate,
Run the RA
Settlement done.
But in COPA, cost estimates are not being split up based on the cost component (like Material, Labour and Over head) and it is getting posted to COGS only.
Do we need to change the costing status to FR, if yes, but how to do ?
Regards
Ramesh KR
+91 9884020411

Cost Estimate by Material Valuation Type

Hi,
Anybody knows about the impact of cost estimate (or standard cost) by material Valuation Type level instead of by Plant level? Especially how is the impact on Moving Average Price calculatio (is it calculated for both valuation type level and plant level?) and the inpact on Production order confirmation (which value will be taken for finish product inventory? Is it Plant level standard price or valuation type standard price?)
Thanks in advance

Hi,
In Split Valuation --
At plant level the material is always valued @Moving average price(MVP)
More specific to the material ,the valuation will be made @ valuation type level --either at Standard cost or MVP. as you wish.
In production order confirmation the valuation will be made @ valuation type level .
For your inventory valuation, you may go for plant level valuation or valuation type level.
Regards,
Murali
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Cost Estimates - system collects planed price for some raw materials only

Hello
I have a question regarding price determination for raw materials when creating cost estimates. My costing variant uses material future price (Accounting 1 view) in raw materials as a primary source for price collecting of raw materials and I want it to be that way. But the problem is that when creating a cost estimate only some materials are recognized as raw (key symbol) while others are recognized for costing (calculator symbol), although all of them have a future price entered into material master data on the same date. For those that are recognized for costing the system uses the average moving price.
I have tried setting all the data for raw materials the same way, the costing views (do not cost, no qty structure), the accounting views are the same and I still cant find the reason why system uses one type of valuation for some and other for others.
Help?

Please check the Price Strategy sequence in the Valuation variant assinged to the Costing Variant in Tcode OKKN. The first priority in your case must be Moving avg price. So, please change it to the planned price which you want. The system will then consider this planned price for the raw material valuation.
hope this info helps you.
regards,
VS.

Std. cost estimate

Dear Experts,
We have ROH, HALB & ZMAT as materials. The question is with respect std. cost estimate.
The cost estimate are run for HALB & ZMAT items created on day to day basis. However cost estimate is executed for all the HALB & ZMAT on alternate months.
I would lke to know the best practice or industry standard on this issue on the frequency of estimates. I appreciate any other points rellated to this point.
Thanks in advance.
T.S.Shankar

hi read the following basics of CO-PC
1)A material cost estimate used to calculate the standard price in the
material master record.
2)The cost estimate must be executed with a costing variant that updates
the material master, and the cost estimate must be released.
3)Forms the basis for profit planning or product costing where the focus
is on determining the variances.
4)Typicall, a standard cost estimate is created for each product at the
beginning of the fiscal year or new season or BEGINING OF THE PERIOD / MONTH.
5)Standard cost estimates establish standard prices for semifinished
products and finished products. The costs calculated in standard cost
estimates are used to valuate materials with standard price control.
A costing type that calculates the cost of goods manufactured for a
product during the course of a planning period.
It differs from the standard cost estimate in that it uses the quantity
structure that has changed during the planning period as the basis for
calculating costs.   ( WHEN EVR YOUR PLANNING WILL BE CHANGED    )
CURRENT COST ESTIMATE
1)A cost estimate that can be created at any time to valuate the current
quantity structure with the current prices.
This cost estimate serves the following purposes:
A) You can compare its results with the results of the standard cost
     estimate to support decision-making in production.
B)You can transfer the results of this cost estimate to the material
     master and use them to valuate the goods receipt when working with
     materials that use the moving average price.
Regards
Mala K Reddy

Requirement of Cost Estimate Details Material-wise

Hi,
Kindly let me know the tablenames or Tcodes in which Cost Estimate details are stored material-wise(FG or SFG)
For E.g.
1     Raw Materials     0.58
2     Packing Material     1.23
3     Man Power     0.15
4     Utilities                     0.71
5     Q C Overhead     1.94
6     Depreciation     0.91
7     Factory Overhead     0.07
8     Admin- Overhead
9     Other Overheads
                     Final Cost              5.59        ( Material Standard Price Derivation)
Standard SAP Report should give above details directly after enter range of SFG or FG Materials
With Regards,
Kunal Sheth

Hi Kunal,
You Estimate the Standard Cost using Transaction Code CK11N, Mark and Release in CK24.
For any Material, SFG or FG, you can view the Standard Cost Estimate
1.Using Transaction Code CK13N.
You can find bothe "Itemization" View (as you asked in your question) and "Cost Component View" there.
2. Alternatively, to be comparitively easy, go to the Material Master of any particular Material for which you want to see the Standard Cost Estimate, Go to "Costing 2" view, you will be able to see there "Future Planned Price", "Current Standard Price" and "Previous Price".
You can simply press on any of the above "buttons" (Press "Current" to view) and the system will take you to the Standard Cost Estimate screen.
Pls check and revert back for further explanation....
Srikanth Munnaluri

Cost estimate without quantity structure

Hi Gurus,
can you explain me on below queries
-->in which situation cost estimate without quantity structure is used
---> what is the impotance of credit key in costing sheet.
Thanks in advance
Janardhan

There are several situations where you may want to use a cost estimate without quantity structure. You can use it as an additive cost in conjunction with a cost estimate with quantity structure. For example to include freight or other expenses in your cost estimate that are not readily available with quantity structure. You can also use it to develope a cost estimate for a new product where the quantity structure has not yet been fully developed. You can also use it in a complex manufacturing environment that does not use Boms and routings.
As far as the credit key in overhead sheets are concerned, as the name implies they are used to specify which object is credited during the overhead allocation and what secondary cost element is used in the allocation. Overhead sheet are just another allocation technique in CO, where you allocate costs from one CO object to another. The credit key determines the sender object in the allocation.
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