In-process inspection and confirmation

Hi, i have used 03 insp type in material master. for each operation, some characterstics were assigned. after prod order confirmation with co11n t-code, i have done results recording thru qa32 t-code. even without confirmation (co11n) also, system allows to record the results thru qa32. please advise how can we restrict this? is there any link or relation in between confirmation and results recording?

Dear Yadav
Let me explain to you in detail the business process and the relevance of 03 inspection .
1)Suppose you have a product A and routing of this product A be like this.
0010 Forming > 0020 u2013 Winding > 0030 Testing > 0040 Assembling > 0050 Final Finishing.
2) In a normal production process suppose you have a production order of 100 for product A
3) Now during the production process you need to confirm each operation through CO11N what was the yield, rework, scrap, activity time taken etc.
4) Once all the operation are confirmed the production order is GRu2019ed and this product A goes to quality stock for 04 inspections. 04 inspections is always considered as Final inspection.
5) 0030 operation being a inprocess inspection , 03 inspection type gives the Quality personal a control over the confirmation process.
6) Quality personnel can do not only result recording but also confirmation of the quantity thereby giving him the control over the production quantity.
7) Quality personal can also do the testing partially and record result multiple times and confirm partially
8 ) To bring the confirmation pop up in QA32 you will have to do
a) In Routing at header kindly maintain inspection point as 150
b) At Operation level maintain a QM work center ( testing ) with Control key QM04
b) double click on the control key and go to Quality Management : Inspection points
c) Maintain Inspection point completion : Quantity , Valuation and confirmation
10 ) For a better control over the 03 inspection these setting have to be defined in PP configuration for production order Type in Tcode OPK4 in config
SPRO > Production> Shop floor control> confirmation> define confirmation parameters
Maintain
1)Operation sequence u2013 error when order sequence is not adhered to
2) Overdeilvery u2013 Error when over delivery tolerance is exceeded
3) Results Rec. (QM)- Error message if no Insp results exist
Edited by: Gajesh Nagesh on Dec 17, 2009 9:12 AM

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