Internal Order Budget Check for PO with reference to PR / RFQ

Hi All,
I have a scenario where the budget availability control is not working for PO created with reference to PR or RFQ. While creating the PO if i modify the PO value more than RFQ or PR value then system is looking for budget control.
If we create a direct PO system is checking for Budget control where the PO value is more than availability budget.
We have the budget control check with internal order for services and non stock material based on substitution rule created for cost element group and cost center group.
In tolerance limits budget availability control we have not activated for PR, itu2019s activated from PO.
Kindly let me know what is the reason for budget availability control is not active where the PO is created with reference to PR or RFQ.
Thanks & Regards,
Rama Mohan

493900 - FAQ: Release Strategy:
It is not possible to create a purchase order if the referenced purchase requisition is not released. But the system allows you to put the purchase order on hold and then release the purchase requisition.
On the other hand you can create a purchase order with reference to an unreleased request of quotation.

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Hope this is the correct place to post my issue!!
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Please help experts.
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Ankur
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HI,
.1. Create Investment program (IM01 u2013 Create)
2. Create top node (IM11 u2013 Create Top Position)
3. create position id (IM22 u2013 Change)
4. Put appropriate budget on position id (IM32 u2013 Edit Original)
5. Create an internal order with internal order type CAPX- Capital Investment Orders (KO01 u2013 Create)
6. System will ask to create AuC assets at this time. We need to create AuC Assets here. It will be used to post the value from CWIP account at the month end.
7. Assign this order to appropriate investment program node. (IM32 u2013 Edit Original)
8. Change the status of I/O from u201CINPL- Initial Planning by Locationsu201D to u201CINPR- In-Principle Sanctionu201D (KO02-Change)
9. Allocate the appropriate budget to this I/O (T-Code IM52)
10. Change the status of I/O from u201CINPR- In-Principle Sanctionu201D to u201C30 APPR Board Note Approu201D and from u201C30 APPR Board Note Approu201D to u201C40 EXEC Execution Phaseu201D. (KO02: Change)
11. Create PO with reference of this I/O and give the expense GL account (ME21)
12. Goods receipt (MIGO) with reference to PO and refer the vendor excise invoice created in above step.
13. At this time cost element u201CCWIP accountu201D will be posted with reference of I/O. (KOB1 Line Item display for Order)
14. At the month end we need to run the settlement for the I/O through KO88. It will post the value to AuC and credit the u201CCWIP accountu201D. It makes the CWIP account zero at the month end.
15. Create an assets master for final settlement. (AS01)
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17. At the month end depreciation need to be run (AFAB u2013 Execute)
18. Do retirement for transferee asset.
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http://help.sap.com/saphelp_470/helpdata/en/4f/71e6f0448011d189f00000e81ddfac/content.htm
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Hi Nitni,
Thanks for the prompt replies.
Now you have struck the point. Assume I have a budget of rs.50000. The planned services in PR is of Rs.20000 and I have set a limit of rs.50000 for the unplanned services in the same PR. Now my commitment is Rs.20000 only which is right.
In our specific case, the budget check will not happen at PR.
Now I am creating a PO of the above PR. So PO commt is rs.20000.
After this, when I go to the service entry sheet and enter a planned services of rs.20000 and unplanned services of rs.40000 (remember i set a 50000 limit for unplanned services in the PR). Hence my total actual cost is rs.60000. Obviously I want the system to do a budget check here and stop the user at the time of service entry sheet. But this is not happening. The budget check is not happening at service entry sheet if I am having any unplanned services in the PR or if I tick the "unlimited" indicator against a particular service.
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Dear all
In cProjects version 4.0, we have integration with existing ECC 6.0. We create Internal Order manually and assign it to cProjects.
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actual hrs, budget and actual cost data in PLM system?
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Dear All Experts,
Very Good Morning !
I have configured IO budgeting with Overall Planning ticked budget profile. I have assigned budger profile to Order type also.
In KO23 I have given limit also of Rs.10,000 /- for overall and yearly 2011 Rs,5,000 /-. In define tolerance I have maintained two entries as below : 1 is with 01 Group wich will check PO's and 2nd one is 04 Group which will check Financial account document. ( I hope this correct, If not please rectify me ). In tolerance limit I have given 3 as a error should throw.
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Your tolerance limits are fine
Let me put you some points here.
Creating IO
   1. Investment Profile is mandatory for Capital projects
   2. If you are using Investment management, then check IM32, & IM52
   3. KO02 - Check - Investments tab - IM Program and Position ID assinged or not
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   6. Planner plofile - KP04 - Just press F4 and check - if there are any created for your controlling area
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Version                    0
From Period               01
To Period                      12
Fiscal Year          2011
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         or group
Cost Element                              which Cost elemtn you are going to post in FB60
                  to
         or group
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Now o and post in FB60
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Internal Order Budgeting for HR and Plant maintenance

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I am using internal order for budgeting control. I want to use internal order budgeting for Payroll also. How do i assign internal order for the same.
I want to check budget through internal order for plant maintenance order also. At the time of issue of material to PM order or at the time of settlement.
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Budget Profile:
IMG => Internal Orders => Budgeting and Availability Control => Maintain Budget Profile
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IMG => Internal Orders => Budgeting and Availability Control => Define Tolerance Limits for Availability Control
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Budget check for purchase order

Hi everyone!
We have NO problems with budget check for the SC. But when we create a PO and exceeds the budget no message are displayed. The only thing that happens is that the PO gets status "error in process". But if we change the PO (still exceeding budget) we receive a correct message. Is this a program error?
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Kindly tell me during Purchase order creation through internal order (Order related PO) whreas budget is maintained against that internal order if the PO amount is exceede than budgeted amount it gives warning / error messge that budget is exceeded. Same internal order or any other internal order which has budget against that internal order if I go to F-02 tcode and pass entry with cost center and internal order(budget is given) both it does not give any warning message if budget value exceeded i.e, F-02 posted amount is greater than budgetd amount. It goes to next screen which should not do. Kindly tell me the reason why it is not being blocked and goes to next screen or if there is any configuration please guide me.
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Hi Eli,
Now I have observed during saving the record in F-02 it gives warning message as per tolerance limit set in config area. Actually I want in F-02 screen when you put Document date, posting date, type, period, company code, currency, posting key(debit), GL account, next 2nd screen you mention amount, cost center, internal order(budget is maintained), posting key(credit) and press enter for next 3rd screen to put credit amount. While you go from 2nd screen to 3rd screen then warning / error message should give if amount is exceeded than budgeted amount which I am getting during saving. Is it possible to make any check between two screens ????
Beside I would ask you here tolerance limit is set as 95%, 100% and 102%. During PO creation through internal order it gives error message when amount is exceeded than 102% as budget is exceeded. If the amount is between 95% to 99% it does not give warning message which should do. But from posting in F-02 screen it gives proper messge in all levels since 95 % to 99% and 101% to 102%.
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Internal Order not allowed for revenue posting

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PO should not exceed Internal Order Value ( Check Required )

Hi experts,
Ideally PO should not be made for more value than the sanctioned amount raised through Internal Order no ( KO01).
But we find that users are creating PO for more value than the sannctioned value in internal order no.
Check is required . Pl. suggest how it can achieved.
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Hi,
In SPRO
Controlling>Internal Orders>Budgeting and Availability Control-->Maintain Budget Profile
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Internal Order Budget - Availability Control

I have done the budget profile, entered the budget figures, created internal order budget with the required profile. However, when I entered the fi document with this statistical IO, system does not give any message as per the tolerance setting actions. I tried to run the activate availability control again. But the system gives a message that availability control is not activated. Why this is happening ? Where can I see the availability control is activated for this Internal order ?

Hi
1. Check if your order is released
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3. Hope you have defined tolerance limits against the combination of contr area and budget profile
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My requirement is to have order budget checking in HR modul.
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I noticed that the HR module and FI module is not related in this phase (creation phase)
During end month, user will run PC00_M99_CIPE to create a document to be posted to FI.
In this phase, SAP will do the checking if got error due to order budget exceeded.
My requirement is to have the checking in creation phase.
What I have done :
1. use exit EXIT_SAPFP50M_002
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1. Creation phase not yet updating the balance of budget availibility, so the comparison I make above, is not accurate.
2. If I want to create a temporary table for every transaction saved -> update budget availibility
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Hi everyone,
My requirement is to have order budget checking in HR modul.
Currently if user create claim transaction with internal order number, there is no checking for the order budget.
I noticed that the HR module and FI module is not related in this phase (creation phase)
During end month, user will run PC00_M99_CIPE to create a document to be posted to FI.
In this phase, SAP will do the checking if got error due to order budget exceeded.
My requirement is to have the checking in creation phase.
What I have done :
1. use exit EXIT_SAPFP50M_002
2. currently on button save clicked, I will have checking on amount filled by user and current availability of budget in table BPGE
Problem :
1. Creation phase not yet updating the balance of budget availibility, so the comparison I make above, is not accurate.
2. If I want to create a temporary table for every transaction saved -> update budget availibility
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Please any solution / suggestion ?
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Great question! Unfortunately, the functionality of order - WBS budget availability checking does not allow you to allocate the order to multiple WBS elements nor to distribute the (planned) costs across multiple WBS elements. Neither does the PM - IM (Investment Management) budget checking functionality. And by definition, direct budget setting at order level, where the order itself is the budget object - doesn't allow it either.
If you turn on operation account assignment, available with EHP5 Business Function LOG_EAM_OLC - operations become cost collectors - and you can settle operations to different receivers. You can also assign WBS elements to the operations, so I would suspect that WBS budget availability checking is also supported.Can anyone confirm that WBS budget availability checking is functional for operations when operation level costing is turned on?
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Another strange thing is that the system allows the same changes for few items (maybe 4, 5, or six that time it will get saved that time it will not give error) ,
but trying to do 10-15 changes , the system shows the warning message as stated above
If anyone has encountered this strange issue please share your inputs
Thanks & regards,
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Dear,
When making changes to budget then make sure you are increasing it not decreasing....
When you decrease the budget then system will check tolerance defined............and display warning or error....
For e.g in tolerance you have defined that system should display warning at 95% absorption of budget and Error at 100%.
You have set budget 10000 INR for the Internal Order. So it means at 9500 INR system will issue warning and at 10000 INR or more system will give error.
If posted amount to order is 9000 INR so you can noway reduce budget less than 9000 INR because it is 100% and system will give error.
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Project-Internal Order Budget Control

Concerning on the Internal Order Budget in SAP, we have the following questions & need clarification :
1) Since the promotion involving SD module, could we enhance the SD module with Internal Order functions & budget control as well? According to the SAP help desk documentation, its possible, pls provide guidelines.
2) I've checked on SAP helpdesk that budget data (including sales & promotion) could capture in COPA via I/Order & pricing conditions. Could we use budget cost in COPA to control the sales & promotion posting in SD module ? pls provide guidelines. We had just implemented COPA with plan but not budget. Could we add this budget as new value field ?
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Budget             500k
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Commitment     300k
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5) Concerning on the issuance of Credit note requisition (CRQ), if we using manual process as entry as Park document then post to FI (currently) and not using PR/PO process, then, how would we have commitment data ?
6) During year end, we may need to perform closing and carry forward the I/Order budget and commitment balance to next fiscal year. Does this mean that controlling need to perform period close also and order settlement even its statistical I/Orders ? we didn't practice this in controlling currently.
7) I/Order budget is control annually. Once the budget I/Order completed fully, it cannot be used again. Hence, does this mean that we need to have different set of I/Order for different year?
Please feedback to us the above soonest possible.
Thanks..............
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Lot's of questions;
1) At the time of entering a sales order you can enter an Internal oder number as well. That then could be used as part of a tracking process.
2) You control the budget by setting up availability control. Then at the time of entry it checks against the budget to see if you are within you tolerances. Youn can also have reporting in COPA to compare actual to plan and budgets. But there won't be the availablity control. It will be analytical reporting instead.
3)The budget for internal orders is one total. You won't be able to set it up for different cost elements there.
4)The availability control looks at all the components. Yes you can control both
5)The credit will be picked up when posted as an actual posting
6) You will need to do carryforward for all I/O.
7) You can set up the budgets to be for a particular year not overall for I/O.
try to limit the size of your questions in the future to make the response easier
pls assign points if helpful as a way to say thanks.

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