INTERNAL ORDER PERIODIC CONTROL

Hi,
In Internal order there is no periodic control. But in budget (KO22) is there any periodic control?
Or
Is there any way to use the blocked option -"select time frame", under menu-goto-period in Budget(KO22)?
Regards
Prakash

Hi,
Internal order has no validity period (not like cost centre).
Regards,
Eli

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Internal Order Period-wise Budgeting

Dear Experts,
I had search with all dimension regarding Internal Order Period-wise Budgeting. But I didn't get any proper information.
Can anyone pls let me know how to do Internal Order Period-wise Budgeting.
Thanks in advance,
Regards,
Balaji Bhonsle

Hello Balaji,
I don't think the option of budgeting period wise is available if you consider a period to be a month. However, you can have yearly budgets. This is monitored by the budget profiles that are configured in SPRO and attached to order types. However, in Planning (transaction KPF6) you can always plan monthly values but there would not be an availability control.
The reason might be that internal orders are event based cost objects and a month might be too short period to assess and therefore the option is provided anually. Whereas the performance monitoring can happen with help of planning the budgeting should be done only when availablity control is required.
Kind Regards // Shaubhik

Project-Internal Order Budget Control

Concerning on the Internal Order Budget in SAP, we have the following questions & need clarification :
1) Since the promotion involving SD module, could we enhance the SD module with Internal Order functions & budget control as well? According to the SAP help desk documentation, its possible, pls provide guidelines.
2) I've checked on SAP helpdesk that budget data (including sales & promotion) could capture in COPA via I/Order & pricing conditions. Could we use budget cost in COPA to control the sales & promotion posting in SD module ? pls provide guidelines. We had just implemented COPA with plan but not budget. Could we add this budget as new value field ?
3) I/Order can be updated through different cost elements but would system allow us to control budget by each cost element but only using one for all the cost element ? According to the helpdesk, we could split the I/Order budget by cost centres, transaction group or budget object. Does this similar to our requirement ?
4) I/Order Budget will control the spending by actual posting data or commitment ? Could we control both at once ? Example :
Budget             500k
Actual posting     300k
Commitment     300k
Budget              -ve 100k not +ve 200k
5) Concerning on the issuance of Credit note requisition (CRQ), if we using manual process as entry as Park document then post to FI (currently) and not using PR/PO process, then, how would we have commitment data ?
6) During year end, we may need to perform closing and carry forward the I/Order budget and commitment balance to next fiscal year. Does this mean that controlling need to perform period close also and order settlement even its statistical I/Orders ? we didn't practice this in controlling currently.
7) I/Order budget is control annually. Once the budget I/Order completed fully, it cannot be used again. Hence, does this mean that we need to have different set of I/Order for different year?
Please feedback to us the above soonest possible.
Thanks..............
Elaine

Lot's of questions;
1) At the time of entering a sales order you can enter an Internal oder number as well. That then could be used as part of a tracking process.
2) You control the budget by setting up availability control. Then at the time of entry it checks against the budget to see if you are within you tolerances. Youn can also have reporting in COPA to compare actual to plan and budgets. But there won't be the availablity control. It will be analytical reporting instead.
3)The budget for internal orders is one total. You won't be able to set it up for different cost elements there.
4)The availability control looks at all the components. Yes you can control both
5)The credit will be picked up when posted as an actual posting
6) You will need to do carryforward for all I/O.
7) You can set up the budgets to be for a particular year not overall for I/O.
try to limit the size of your questions in the future to make the response easier
pls assign points if helpful as a way to say thanks.

Internal order budget control by year

Hi,
When using KO22 to key in internal order budget, we can key in total budget and yearly budget, but when the budget consumed, the value is only updated to field 'Assigned-total', it seems that it does not control by year, is it right? Any way to change this?

Go to the T Code S_ALR_87013019. Insert the order no. If assigned field is not emplty then Actual or/and commitment field must contain value.
Chintan Joshi.

Internal Order - Periodic Reposting

Hi all,
I have got statistic internal orders (for company-cars) - that have all the same cost-center as a collector.
At the end of the month I would like to transfer costs to other cost centers.
I tried to do that with KSW1 - I entered Internal Order and Cost Element Group as sender and Cost Center as Receiver.
When executing it in KSW5 system tells me that Cycle does not include any senders.
Thanks in advance for any help!
Greetings
Berni

Hi Bernhard,
you said "I tried to do that with KSW1 - I entered Internal Order and Cost Element Group as sender and Cost Center as Receiver."
Your internal orders are statistical (posting with value type 11).
Actual cost (value type 4) can only be reposted from a REAL CO-object (in your case the cost center assigned to each statistical order).
So enter the cost center / cost element as sender and the cycle will find sender values.
Best regards, Christian

Settlement of PM order over Internal order

In order to control revenue budget from being over run we have developed Internal orders in controlling with the combination of Cost Centre & GL Code. The internal order are statistical in nature.
We are facing the following problem:
1. In PM order (IW31) settlement rule is defined as following:
                  1.1     CAT "Order"
                  1.2     Settlement Receiver "3440-2360010 3440"
                  1.3     Amount 1000
                  1.4     Settlement Type is Full
2. The problem occurs when there are different internal orders
3. After we run settlement rule (KO88) it runs successfully.
4. KSB1 report shows that the amount is split among all the settlement receivers
5. Whereas requirement is that amount against a particular internal order should be charged to its GL account and cost centre only.

Dear Sreenivas Kadiam,
I go to spro-----Plant Maintenance and Customer Service--Maintenance and Service Processing---Basic Settings----
General Order Settlement------Maintain Allocation Structures.
The following allocation structures are already defined:
A1     CO allocation structure
A2     No split
PM     PM allocation structure
PR     PARCO Allocation Structure
I could not find the (settlement cost elements setting should be 'BY COST ELEMENT' for receiver category ORD.)
Please advise
Regards
Aftab Ahmed Khan

Internal order AUC

Hi
When i am trying to save the internal order ,for which i have assigned the investment profile ,system is giving below error
Object concerned: New order .
The object is a capital investment measure, since it has the investment profile 000009, in which the indicator "manage asset under construction" is set. In addition, it is no longer at system status EROF (opened). In this case, there has to be an asset under construction for the object.
System Response
You can create the missing asset under construction.
The object cannot be saved in its current state.
Where i can set this EROF in the status profile.
Thanks
Lily

Hi Lily !
The internal order you have created belongs to an order type which is attached to a model order. The model order is assigned an asset class which is managed on the Investment measure.
In this case, you have to create an asset under construction before releasing the Internal order. Other wise, the system will not allow you to save the internal order.
When you settle the internal order periodically, the values will automatically flow to the AUC asset.
For more details you can check the configuration on Investment management.
Inthis case, create the AUC asset with the asset class ( which is defined as the AUC investment measure)
Thanks
Siva

Internal Order budget - Monthwise

Hi
I have my internal order for telephone expense budget. I created one internal order (as statistical) and assigned yearly budget of Rs.240000 in KO22.
My requirement is that the yearly budget of Rs.240000 should be splitted into 12 months. Is there any way where i can give monthly budget. How can i handle monthly budget process.

Hi,
Refer Note: 50191 Budgeting on a monthly basis
Also check thread Internal Order Period-wise Budgeting
regards
Waman

NACE configration FOR Internal Order ( KP01 )

Hi Everyone ,
For KP01,KP02 & KP03 (Internal Order ) .
What is the application in NACE transaction & What is the output type in this ?
For configuring the smart form or sap script.
You are help is really appropriated.
Regards
Sandeep

Not sure what KP01 is, but if you mean the [http://www.sap-topjobs.com/IOrder1.pdf|internal order from Controlling], then most likely there won't be anything in NACE. FI and CO-PA modules have their own output functionality. You might want to ask in another forum, this has nothing to do with ABAP.

Budgeting for fixed asset using internal order

Hi All,
My customer wants to budget for assets and track the actual capital expenses with budgeted capital expense.
Can I use Internal order to budget for the expense. I am not using investment management or funds management.
If it is possible to use the internal order without using IM or FM, can i create the IO as statistical.
Thanks for all the help

You can use Internal Orders for controlling capex. It is possible to enter budgets at internal order level as well as control the same.
For this you need to Budget Profile & activate the commitment management for the order type. In budget profile, you need to activate the availability control. You can also specify the person, who should be informed once budget is exceeded.
From internal order you will be able to settle cost to AUC.
Regards
Rakesh Pawaskar

Only one internal order allowed for Cost center/GL combination -validation

Dear Friends,
We are using internal orders for controlling department wise budgets.
my client wants that he be able to post only through one GL account to one internal order
that is for Marketing dept,(departments are created as cost centers)
Canteen exp              internal order 1000
Entertainment exp     internal order 1001
Gift exp                     Internal order 1002
that is when GL account canteen exp is used (for cost center 1000 (marketing)) then internal order 1000 can be used but if entertainment exp is to be booked internal order 1000 cannot be used. in this case only internal order 1001 should be allowed
We are using real internal order (settlement will happen at end of month)
Can you let me know if this is possible in standard SAP or any workaround.
Regards,

Hi Sangharsh,
If internal order must be filled in these GL then you can meet your requirement by creating the validation. To meet this requirement three steps are to be created in one validation. One step is created below to make you create two more steps by your self.
Create validation under Financial Accounting Line Item using transaction GGB0.
Step 1.
Prerequisites. (Go to settings>Expert mode and fill following)
BSEG-BUKRS = '1000' AND (here instead of 1000 you enter your company code)
BSEG-HKONT = '450000'      (here instead of 450000 you enter GL for canteen expense)
Check
BSEG-AUFNR = '1000'
Message
Click on pencil icon and create below message or the message you want.
Intenal Order 1000 is allowed for canteen expenses.
Assign this validation to your company code using transaction OB28 with call up point 2.
Similarly you can create two more steps. Thus your requirement can be met.
Regards,
Chintan Joshi.

Internal order valid only for a given period

Dear All
I s there are way to maintian a validity period for a statistical order ??? We want our marketing budget to be broken down based on the month, based on an internal order which is only valid for a month.
Thank you
Gayani

Hi,
Go to KO02, enter to the order, then Menu - Edit - Lock - Set (to unlock Menu - Edit - Lock - Undo).
You can do it also for multiple I/O via KOK4.
Regards,
Eli

Report for internal order - year/period comparison

I want to create a report for internal orders with year/period (from/to) comparison.
For the present year/period i'm using CCA variables 1YRPERF (Fiscal Year/Period From) and 1YRPERT (Fiscal Year/Period To), created from field FISCPER, table RWCOOM.
Now i want to creat a column fot the n-1 period (example: if selected current period as 009.2013 to 008.2014 the n-1 period will be 009.2012 to 008.2013), any suggestion what can I do about this?
Regards
Carlos Aguiar

Hi Ajay
This is for higher education institution that have to report by fiscal year (01-12 months) and by academic year (09.year1 to 08.year2). I have two maps to do this but the challenge is to have a unique map that by dates could retreive both information.
I need a to have a column giving the total for example the Per/Yr 009.2012 to 008.2013 and other column with the Per/Yr -1.
I've tried your first option but doesen't work at all because don't work with a period like 009.2013 to 008.2014. Then i made some adjustments: first column was setted to Yr (variable: 6-GJAHV to 6-GJAHB) and Per (variables: 1NPERIV to 1NPERIB). The second column was setted with Yr (variable: 6-GJAH2 to 6-GJAH2) and Per (variables: 1NPERIV to 1NPERIB). Seems to work with a few tests!
Also i tried to creat new variables "1YRPERF" / "1YRPERT" to n-1, but had some problems with formula.
1YRPERF have a formula: '#S012-999' and 1YRPERT formula is: '#S012'.
To 1YRPERF-1 i've defined the formula '1YRPERF' -1, and for the Per to the formula '1YRPERT' -1, but seems to consider minus 1 period that the entry period. I've tried with -12 but didn't work too.
Thatk's for the help!
Regards, Carlos

Message control for Internal Orders

Hi
How to change the message control for an error when Iu2019m getting settling internal orders (message # KD503)
Tks

Hi
You need to maintain Condition record for your Purchase Order output. Then output will get assign automatically once you create PO.
Use Transaction code: MN04
Navigation:
Logistics --> Materials Management --> Purchasing --> Master Data --> Messages --> Purchase Order --> Create
Enter PO output type and maintain necessary conditions.
hope it helps.
regards
Srinivas

Finance and Controlling report in combination with Cost center, GL account, Internal Order

Hi Members,
Finance and Controlling report in combination with Cost center, GL account, Internal Order.
Please provide any slandered report in all 3 dimension.
Thanks
Dileep Kumar

Search this query in FI Controlling forum am sure you will get useful results there.
This kind of reports related to Controlling are usually created using Report Writer tool.
In fact majority of reports in Controlling component is created using Report Writer only.

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